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Old 07-06-2016, 10:13 PM
 
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It's typically found is murky water throughout the southeast. Jeff Wise is the CEO of the USNWC. What I want to know did the USNWC test for the Amoeba? If not why. There is 2-3 deaths every year from this amoeba, Not testing is a travesty. That's what leaders get paid to do. It should have been on their radar. If they did test for it, what were the results. These are questions local reporters should be asking. THey also should be demanding a press conference with Jeff Wise.
Not sure if I am linking this article correctly but I did find a full statement made by Jeff Wise CEO and it says:

Our weekly water tests are conducted by a third party laboratory and we have remained in compliance with all standards and guidelines.

Read more here: Full statement from Whitewater Center CEO on teen
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Old 07-06-2016, 10:35 PM
 
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Not sure if I am linking this article correctly but I did find a full statement made by Jeff Wise CEO and it says:

Our weekly water tests are conducted by a third party laboratory and we have remained in compliance with all standards and guidelines.

Read more here: Full statement from Whitewater Center CEO on teen
Again It's a statement. Jeff Wise hasn't been grilled by the press. The local news should be camped out until the questions are answered. Those questions should be. Did you ever test for the amoeba? If so what was the results? If not why Then why wasn't the amoeba on the USNWC's radar. Now we are faced with the real possibility that the tainted water will be released into the catawba. This story just gets worse and worse.
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Old 07-07-2016, 06:36 AM
 
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Again It's a statement. Jeff Wise hasn't been grilled by the press. The local news should be camped out until the questions are answered. Those questions should be. Did you ever test for the amoeba? If so what was the results? If not why Then why wasn't the amoeba on the USNWC's radar. Now we are faced with the real possibility that the tainted water will be released into the catawba. This story just gets worse and worse.
It's pretty apparent given your posts you have something against Jeff Wise, which is pretty bizarre. But coming on a message board and exclaiming the "blood of this girl is on his hands" is about as low as it gets. The WWC will likely face a lawsuit, but they have commercial insurance like any other large scale enterprise, the same that a Carowinds would have. Settle or go to trial, they won't pay more than what their regular premiums are.

The amoeba is found naturally in the sediment of the Catawba and other warm bodies of water. Dumping that TREATED water back into the Catawba would quite literally be "a drop in a bucket". I'm perfectly okay with them doing so as a resident of the county. Lisa Corbitt from Wastewater Management is the one proposing the dump, I'd trust her over some random on the internet. If she says it isn't safe, they will find another solution.

The reality is THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of people have fallen in that water over the past 5+ years and this is a tragic event that quite honestly no one could have predicted. It's sad and tragic and it appears the WWC is going to do everything they can to help further prevent it going forward.

But fear mongering and "camping out until questions are answered" is not a rational reaction to this situation. A 14 year old died in Texas last year while swimming at Sam Houston State Park under similar circumstances, as did a 9 year old in Oklahoma in a lake. Unfortunately, tragedies occur.
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Old 07-07-2016, 07:23 AM
 
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It's pretty apparent given your posts you have something against Jeff Wise, which is pretty bizarre. But coming on a message board and exclaiming the "blood of this girl is on his hands" is about as low as it gets. The WWC will likely face a lawsuit, but they have commercial insurance like any other large scale enterprise, the same that a Carowinds would have. Settle or go to trial, they won't pay more than what their regular premiums are.

The amoeba is found naturally in the sediment of the Catawba and other warm bodies of water. Dumping that TREATED water back into the Catawba would quite literally be "a drop in a bucket". I'm perfectly okay with them doing so as a resident of the county. Lisa Corbitt from Wastewater Management is the one proposing the dump, I'd trust her over some random on the internet. If she says it isn't safe, they will find another solution.

The reality is THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of people have fallen in that water over the past 5+ years and this is a tragic event that quite honestly no one could have predicted. It's sad and tragic and it appears the WWC is going to do everything they can to help further prevent it going forward.

But fear mongering and "camping out until questions are answered" is not a rational reaction to this situation. A 14 year old died in Texas last year while swimming at Sam Houston State Park under similar circumstances, as did a 9 year old in Oklahoma in a lake. Unfortunately, tragedies occur.
there are 2 to 3 deaths on average every year from the amoeba. The two you mentioned happened in a natural setting. This one did not. It happened in a man made setting. I guess you don't understand that. Luckily the CDC does. It's the CDC that won't allow the center to reopen. It's the CDC that's saying that until changes are made to the channel itself The river will remain closed. It's the CDC that won't allow the water to be discharged into the catawba. I think they know a little more that Lisa Corbitt. This is some tragic random event that happened in a natural setting. It happened in a controlled manmade environment.

As for Jeff Wise I can't stand him. He's one of the biggest jerks I've met in my life. If he ran a private company I could care less. He doesn't He runs a nonprofit, that took over 13 million dollars of taxpayer money. The local governments have zero oversight over the USNWC, even though they helped fund it. Like I said several years ago. The whitewater center will come crawling back to local government asking for a handout. Once the dust settles from this they will be close to being bankrupt, and they will tell local government that they must step in, and save this wonderful local resource from closing. Just wait. It will happen around 4th quarter this year or 1st quarter 2017.
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Old 07-07-2016, 08:06 AM
 
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there are 2 to 3 deaths on average every year from the amoeba. The two you mentioned happened in a natural setting. This one did not. It happened in a man made setting. I guess you don't understand that. Luckily the CDC does. It's the CDC that won't allow the center to reopen. It's the CDC that's saying that until changes are made to the channel itself The river will remain closed. It's the CDC that won't allow the water to be discharged into the catawba. I think they know a little more that Lisa Corbitt. This is some tragic random event that happened in a natural setting. It happened in a controlled manmade environment.

As for Jeff Wise I can't stand him. He's one of the biggest jerks I've met in my life. If he ran a private company I could care less. He doesn't He runs a nonprofit, that took over 13 million dollars of taxpayer money. The local governments have zero oversight over the USNWC, even though they helped fund it. Like I said several years ago. The whitewater center will come crawling back to local government asking for a handout. Once the dust settles from this they will be close to being bankrupt, and they will tell local government that they must step in, and save this wonderful local resource from closing. Just wait. It will happen around 4th quarter this year or 1st quarter 2017.
You sound incredibly unbiased. I'm sure you've got no agenda here. Enjoy your tin foil hat.
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Old 07-07-2016, 08:12 AM
 
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The USNWC was bitten by critics who were upset about the "slow start". I'm HAPPY we helped float the center until it was in the black, now the place is a HUGE money maker and a great attraction for our city.

I've never seen a permit that requires testing for N. fowleri. If it comes out that the center has been hiding high fecal coliform numbers and this problem cropped up, well that's one thing. But if fecal coliform numbers have been normal there would be no reason to suspect an amoeba infestation, it's not a pathogen that was on anyone's radar.

So, I'm thinking it's a little early to drop blame on Wise and Co., I'll wait for more facts before I publicly crucify.
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Old 07-07-2016, 09:00 AM
 
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The USNWC was bitten by critics who were upset about the "slow start". I'm HAPPY we helped float the center until it was in the black, now the place is a HUGE money maker and a great attraction for our city.

I've never seen a permit that requires testing for N. fowleri. If it comes out that the center has been hiding high fecal coliform numbers and this problem cropped up, well that's one thing. But if fecal coliform numbers have been normal there would be no reason to suspect an amoeba infestation, it's not a pathogen that was on anyone's radar.

So, I'm thinking it's a little early to drop blame on Wise and Co., I'll wait for more facts before I publicly crucify.
Hear hear.
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