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Old 12-22-2012, 05:20 AM
 
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Do we to assume that these 47,447 people are just slackers who don't want to find jobs? Live of unemployment benefits ? Or lack of tools to find/get jobs? Under qualified?


Why?

It is easier to collect an entitlement, like Welfare, than it is to go to work!
It's all about "Money in the Bible" and you can get a free cellphone too.
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Old 12-22-2012, 06:44 AM
 
Location: The 12th State
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Looks like its a tend across the state, I haven't seen full list but for what was in the article
Gaston saw increase while neighboring counties to Mecklenburg all went down too. Union County looking really good.

Cabarrus: 8.1 percent, down 1.6 percentage points from October 2011.
Gaston: 11.4 percent, up 0.2 points.
Iredell: 9.2 percent, down 1.7 points.
Union: 7.4 percent, down 1.8 points.
Wake: 6.8 percent, down 1.4 points.
Highest statewide: Scotland County, 15.7 percent, down 2 points.
Lowest statewide: Currituck County, 5.5 percent, down 0.4 points.
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Old 12-22-2012, 07:01 AM
 
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Access and mobility is an issue. Many of these jobs are low skill, low paying. Many don't pay enough for people to own a car ... Average annual cost is 6k ...and jobs aren't located near public transportation. This said, the Charlotte area is doing a much better job of encouraging growth in places servicable to people with and without access to single occupancy vehicles.

For clarification....Charlotte is doing a better job of linking land use and transportation. It doesn't mean that someone is going to make 4 transfers on buses in the rain and snow to travel 4 hours roundtrip to take a job at one of Art Pope's retail sweatshops.

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Old 12-22-2012, 07:38 AM
 
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A huge percentage are those that are disillusioned into thinking that since they have been union employees in their former state, someone will grab them immediately. When will they ever learn? We have over 30,000 people move to the area annually. We are the fastest growing large city in the U.S. Why wouldn't one think that our unemployment rate wouldn't be high with so many moving here witout good resumes, experience, ambition, goals, etc. There are also those that have become very comfortable with an unemployment check that has been so generously wasted on them for extended periods. And, a percentage consist of those that were unfortunate enought to be laid off through no fault of their own or even a returning G.I. looking for work. Truth is, I see 'help wanted' signs all over the place. And, as urbanmyth said above, there is ample transportation for those that have the highest unemployment rates. It requires getting off ones ass and looking and that is hard for many, and I know a few in that category.
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Old 12-22-2012, 07:51 AM
 
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A huge percentage are those that are disillusioned into thinking that since they have been union employees in their former state, someone will grab them immediately. When will they ever learn? We have over 30,000 people move to the area annually. We are the fastest growing large city in the U.S. Why wouldn't one think that our unemployment rate wouldn't be high with so many moving here witout good resumes, experience, ambition, goals, etc. There are also those that have become very comfortable with an unemployment check that has been so generously wasted on them for extended periods. And, a percentage consist of those that were unfortunate enought to be laid off through no fault of their own or even a returning G.I. looking for work. Truth is, I see 'help wanted' signs all over the place. And, as urbanmyth said above, there is ample transportation for those that have the highest unemployment rates. It requires getting off ones ass and looking and that is hard for many, and I know a few in that category.
Seriously? Bashing unions? Four union school workers gave their lives to save small children. Give the union bashing a rest, will you?

Also, i didn't say anything about there being ample transportation for people... I said, Charlotte is doing a better job of linking land use and transportation. It still doesn't mean that someone is going to make 4 transfers on buses in the rain and snow to travel 4 hours roundtrip to take a job at one of Art Pope's retail sweatshops.
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Old 12-22-2012, 08:17 AM
 
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Seriously? Bashing unions? Four union school workers gave their lives to save small children. Give the union bashing a rest, will you?

Also, i didn't say anything about there being ample transportation for people... I said, Charlotte is doing a better job of linking land use and transportation. It still doesn't mean that someone is going to make 4 transfers on buses in the rain and snow to travel 4 hours roundtrip to take a job at one of Art Pope's retail sweatshops.
Seriously, associating teacher's union membership to saving the lives of small children? Are you serious? Do you actually think that those that gave their lives wouldn't have done so if they hadn't been union members? And, how do you even know they were members? Not very logical or even applicable. I used to teach and I wasn' t a union member. I would have tried to save the children even as a non-union member.

I made the comment implied that transportation was available to the areas where most unemployment receipients reside. And there are "Retail sweatshops?" LOL!!

We don't need unions around here. We are happy and workers are paid competitively and are treaded humanely, ie. no child labor, no intended unsafe working conditions, no slave labor, etc. We non-unionists tend to be more focused on fair pay and benefits for quality productivity instead of high pay for minimal productivity which is why we outsource. To many, working a full day at minimum wage is a "sweatshop" activity. Some people need minimum wage jobs and are happy to have them.
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:08 AM
 
Location: The South
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Seriously, associating teacher's union membership to saving the lives of small children? Are you serious? Do you actually think that those that gave their lives wouldn't have done so if they hadn't been union members? And, how do you even know they were members? Not very logical or even applicable. I used to teach and I wasn' t a union member. I would have tried to save the children even as a non-union member.
Belittling the valor of the teachers who are derided for being "unionists"? Stunning.

Apparently you've never had to work in one of Art Pope's "stores"....

We don't need unions around here? See I thought unions were responsible for chasing jobs away...and here I thought manufacturing jobs disappeared because of unions. Couldn't possibly be because of the greed of corporate bosses. Nah.
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:15 AM
 
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Do we to assume that these 47,447 people are just slackers who don't want to find jobs? Live of unemployment benefits ? Or lack of tools to find/get jobs? Under qualified?


Why?

It is easier to collect an entitlement, like Welfare, than it is to go to work!
It's all about "Money in the Bible" and you can get a free cellphone too.
Another Kool-Aid drinking without a grasp of the facts.

Unemployment isn't an entitlement...it's called "unemployment insurance" because we fund it when we are working. Free cellphones -- thanks W.!
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Old 12-22-2012, 12:54 PM
 
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Do we to assume that these 47,447 people are just slackers who don't want to find jobs? Live of unemployment benefits ? Or lack of tools to find/get jobs? Under qualified?


Why?

It is easier to collect an entitlement, like Welfare, than it is to go to work!
It's all about "Money in the Bible" and you can get a free cellphone too.
I'm not sure if you are broadly defining welfare in order to stay on topic or if you're steering the conversation to one about welfare regardless of employment but if the former being unemployed does not get you a free cell phone.
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Old 12-22-2012, 12:57 PM
 
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Belittling the valor of the teachers who are derided for being "unionists"? Stunning.
He didn't belittle anyone. Your original statement was irrelevant. Bringing the tragedy into this thread can only be self-serving.
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