Just barely this side of legal - pastors endorsing candidates from the pulpit (Charlotte: teaching, required)
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I think your fake self-righteousness is hilarious.
How 'bout that?
And yes, this is about FOLLOWING THE RULES.
You know what I have noticed? Libertarians don't like rules, but if there are rules, they follow them. So do conservatives. Liberals, on the other hand, are always trying to figure out a way to either get an exemption, shame the people who are trying to follow the rules through mockery and playing the intellectual elite card, the race card, the culture card or the class card.
that is an odd email and the links ask for a username and password
I will agree I thought it odd also. I received it in one of my email addresses. I figured the links wouldn't work unless you were signed in to my email, sorry.
I wasn't so interested in the links as the body of the email I received as it spoke to the subject thread.
Notice the enticement of "legal guidelines" to use from the pulpit. I assume they are pointers on how to circumvent the tax exempt riders regarding politics.
Conservatives and Libertarians have no more a monopoly on following rules than liberals do. Talk about self-righteousness.
Most people are moderates.
I stand by what I said. It is what I have noticed. If you feel differently, your opinion. You are certainly entitled to your opinion. We are allowed to have opinions on this forum. Those are the RULES.
Though I don't expect you to believe me, the fact is that the election is strictly off-limits in LDS worship services, etc. Of course, individual members of a congregation may talk among themselves about it, but the Church definitely has not endorsed Mitt Romney. And if you were to be a tourist visiting Temple Square in Salt Lake City right about now, you would not hear one word spoken by the missionaries or Church employees there about the election. You would see no signs on any LDS Church property in support of Romney. And that is the truth.
Katzpur,
your post is encouraging to me. Many pastors in our nation are treading on dangerous waters, encouraging their members to "vote for the man who is against abortion and for traditional marriage." Actually, even if they don't call the candidate by name, their tax-exempt status should be questioned.
Katzpur,
your post is encouraging to me. Many pastors in our nation are treading on dangerous waters, encouraging their members to "vote for the man who is against abortion and for traditional marriage." Actually, even if they don't call the candidate by name, their tax-exempt status should be questioned.
That is a difficult standard to maintain. If a political issues become church teachings or doctrine, that could be an issue. But what if teachings or doctrine becomes a political issue? Do churches have to stop talking about issues they may have been discussing long before they entered the political arena because they are now “politicizing from the pulpit?”
I think there is a difference between endorsing candidates and encouraging people to vote according to the shared values of a church. I have no problem with a church or pastor stating: “Here are the church’s/my positions on issues X, Y, & Z. I’d encourage you to consider these positions when selecting a candidate.” That is quite a bit different than saying, “The church endorses Smith for President and Jones for Governor."
That is a difficult standard to maintain. If a political issues become church teachings or doctrine, that could be an issue. But what if teachings or doctrine becomes a political issue? Do churches have to stop talking about issues they may have been discussing long before they entered the political arena because they are now “politicizing from the pulpit?”
I think there is a difference between endorsing candidates and encouraging people to vote according to the shared values of a church. I have no problem with a church or pastor stating: “Here are the church’s/my positions on issues X, Y, & Z. I’d encourage you to consider these positions when selecting a candidate.” That is quite a bit different than saying, “The church endorses Smith for President and Jones for Governor."
IMO the problem is politics preys on church values...
every election it's the same issues. Gays, abortion, marriage, etc...
Leaders of the North Carolina NAACP and other religious leaders are jointly calling on Franklin Graham, son of the famed evangelist Billy Graham, to stop his conservative politicking against equality and his continued public suspicions regarding President Barack Obama’s Christian faith.
IMO the problem is politics preys on church values...
every election it's the same issues. Gays, abortion, marriage, etc...
And yet this political strategy wouldn't work if these issues weren't important to a large percentage of the country. That goes along with my point: if churches have always had teachings about certain issues, such as the ones you listed above, is there a point they have to stop teachings on these issues once they enter the political arena? Should they be forced to stop teachings on gays, abortion, & marriage because those issues have become politicized? I don't think that is the law, but it seems some would like it to be. I guess this would have prevented abolitionist churches from teaching about the evils of slavery!
And yet this political strategy wouldn't work if these issues weren't important to a large percentage of the country. That goes along with my point: if churches have always had teachings about certain issues, such as the ones you listed above, is there a point they have to stop teachings on these issues once they enter the political arena? Should they be forced to stop teachings on gays, abortion, & marriage because those issues have become politicized? I don't think that is the law, but it seems some would like it to be. I guess this would have prevented abolitionist churches from teaching about the evils of slavery!
They work because they distract from the real issues.
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