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Old 11-10-2012, 02:14 PM
 
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Did the neoconservative, war mongering, imperialistic, rhetoric that Romney expressed during the third debate scare, and/or dissuade you, from supporting him?

There is no significant difference between the Democrats & Republicans. I paid no mind to what Romney said vs what Obama said. I hear the charges of War Mongering, but Obama has kept more troops in the Middle East than G. Bush did, and also started a 3rd war in Libya. The result of that foolish bit or war mongering is our ambassador gets killed. (and they tried to blame it on a Youtube LOL) The people are delusional if they think there is a difference.

In a country of 320M, only 3 million votes separated the two. So Obama got no mandate and if his name had been O'Brian instead, would have lost. The only real discussion I saw of this election was on a finance site where it centered around which candidate would drive the USA into the ground the fastest. We are headed there you know because of the unsustainable spending & debt.

I voted for neither and I feel good about the decision.
Agree 100%

2 sides of the same coin.
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Old 11-10-2012, 02:16 PM
 
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Romney lost because there were not enough decent Americans to vote for him.
LOL.

Your knee-jerk reactions back up this study, which is quite telling about who votes D or R.

Differences in Conservative and Liberal Brains - 2012 Presidential Election - ProCon.org

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2...-studies-show/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1237796.html


I tend to think that Romney wasn't elected because Americans are evolving. As I stated earlier, the GOP couldn't beat one of the weakest Democrat presidents in modern history. That doesn't give Conservatives much to be happy about, I'm sure. And yeah, there are 330MM Americans, but only about 110MM voted...
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Old 11-10-2012, 03:13 PM
 
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.... but it's the rural areas that go to the right. Romney lost this election because he cant relate to middle class people.
The GOP is the minority.
Your commentary does not describe NC. Obama won 27 counties in and 20 of those could be considered rural with less than 50K votes, and 10 of those had less than 20K votes.

The GOP is now the majority in NC.

NC isn't a hard core GOP or Democratic state. People will routinely switch parties here unlike many states.
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Old 11-10-2012, 03:19 PM
 
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The GOP is out of touch....The Grand Old Party is showing its age.
^^^^^^^^This!!
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Old 11-10-2012, 03:28 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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My question is political in nature, but it's my hope that this thread is kept on the Charlotte forum. For while I don't know many of you personally, I am familiar with the opinions of more than a few posters, and I am curious to see what y'all think.

This question is open to all Independents, Moderates, Republicans, and Conservatives:

Did the neoconservative, war mongering, imperialistic, rhetoric that Romney expressed during the third debate scare, and/or dissuade you, from supporting him?

I am very surprised that Romney didn't win. I wonder if his (Romney's) foreign policy partly did him in.

I was pleasantly surprised by the foreign policy vision that President Obama articulated. For apart from his desire in reducing the military's budget, the views he expressed were much in keeping with true conservative thought.

Comments?
I'm a moderate & registered unafilliated. That said, for the first time in my life I voted a straight ticket, & it was Democratic. Plus, I voted for Obama.

The social issues that the Republicans have brought up are a blast from the past, & not a pleasant recycling of issues that I thought were settled decades ago. They want to outlaw abortion for any reason. Really? The reason that the opposing side is called choice is that if you get raped by your crazy uncle, you have a choice to carry the resulting pregnancy or abort it. Dictionaries are a good thing. Ever talk to a woman who's a survivor of a back alley abortion? Try that, if the definition of choice eludes you. (Not leveled at you personally, OP.) Choice is something that is best left to women. The 1st man to get pregnant gets to throw his 2 cents in. Let's not forget that Ryan tried to get a personhood law for the whole country. Good Lord, Mississippi voted that concept down.

Why do the right wing people think that it's OK for insurance to cover Viagra, but not birth control. Explain that to me.

On the state level, why would I vote for McCrory? 'Spail that to me, Lucy. I heard him rant about Bev weekly on the WCNC public affairs show. He lost. He should have dealt with it like a man, not a 2 year old. Then I saw video of him saying that he'll back the Republicans in the legislature, & his jobs program is "Drill, baby, drill". Great.

Then there's our tea party legislature. They ran on jobs, jobs, jobs in 2010. What did they do about jobs? Yeah, nothing, because they were too busy with the social issues. But they did do a bang up job gerrymandering all of the districts. It just makes so much sense that Gastonia & Asheville are in the same district.

None of this is left-wing. This is just common sense.
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Old 11-10-2012, 03:52 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Romney lost because there were not enough decent Americans to vote for him. He won in North Carolina for the very same reason. Decent people did vote for him. Everyone gets to choose whether they vote for a decent or corrupt America.

Corruption won nationwide. Decent people won in North Carolina but we are almost being overpowered here too.
Decent people abound in this country. They do not always share my views, but that does not mean that they are not decent. You've repeatedly stated your views that all tranplaqnts are the spawn of the devil. We get it. You don't like us.

Romney lost because he wanted to be right-wing & left-wing at the same time, take care of the filthy rich, stick it to the middle class, etc. His father was my governor, when I was a kid. He was a good man.
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Old 11-10-2012, 03:56 PM
 
Location: on the High Seas
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Your commentary does not describe NC. Obama won 27 counties in and 20 of those could be considered rural with less than 50K votes, and 10 of those had less than 20K votes.

The GOP is now the majority in NC.

NC isn't a hard core GOP or Democratic state. People will routinely switch parties here unlike many states.

the major cities in North Carolina
Charlotte, Raleigh, Winston-Salem all won by Obama

most rural areas won by Romney

check out the map in this link
North Carolina Presidential Election Results - Presidential Race | NBC News

the GOP is not the majority on a national level.
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:09 PM
 
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the major cities in North Carolina
Charlotte, Raleigh, Winston-Salem all won by Obama
I don't disagree with this. McCrory, running for governor of NC for the GOP also won Charlotte. (I didn't check the other places)

You were making generalizations about NC which were not correct. This state can't simply be divided rural vs urban as this election has proved in this state. As the above demonstrates, people in NC will routinely split their tickets and don't vote blindly for a single party as they do in other states in this country.
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:17 PM
 
Location: on the High Seas
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I don't disagree with this. McCrory, running for governor of NC for the GOP also won Charlotte. (I didn't check the other places)

You were making generalizations about NC which were not correct. This state can't simply be divided rural vs urban as this election has proved in this state. As the above demonstrates, people in NC will routinely split their tickets and don't vote blindly for a single party as they do in other states in this country.

I was talking about the Presidency and if you look at the map in the link
you will see that is not a generalization
blue in the bigger Cities and red in most rural areas
and that was how it was for most states
Obama won in many urban areas and lost in many rural areas
it's been a long time since N.C. had a Republican governor
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:42 PM
 
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When it comes to managing / spending the tax payers money, what is the difference between the two parties, Democrat or Republican? I simply do not see a difference. If we as a nation end up completely broke and with a worthless dollar, does it matter what political platform you stand on?

Nations, kingdoms, and empires have fallen for this kind of thing. Nations, kingdoms, and empires bigger and more powerful and more relevant to the history of the world than the US. There is no nation in the history of the world that lasts by squandering away all its resources and mis-managing the peoples money as a way of doing business. It is just not possible. History proves this.

We are much closer as a nation to falling apart than we are to getting on the right track to a stable, solvent, and successful future. We can and will be ok, if and only if there is a real, present, and evident change in the way the US Government manages the People's tax money and this Nations resources.

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