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Another insane, thoughless, idea. There are enough distractions in the classroom. People don't understand how much trouble it is for teachers to control the cell phones, IPods, etc. used by students when they need to be learning. And, it isn't the 'underpriviled' students that don't have these toys. They are the most likely ones to actually have them. They are handy for drug deals, etc. These stupid liberal ideas are killing the American education system. No wonder the U.S. has the stupidest students in the industrialized world. Thake these things away and make students learn the basics which they don't give a crap about generally.
When I was in the classroom, the state had invested millions in computes for students. It was shocking to see all of the computer rooms that were barely used. Stop wasting my bloody money you government morons and make students learn the basics before continuously rewarding them for being illiterate. The new superintendant needs to get his head out of his 'you know what.' Teachers have enough trouble controlling brats without controlling the toys they bring to the classroom. This is a stupid idea.
People would be shocked if they knew just how many times every day that students using CMS computers actually get into filty porn web sites. The teacher can not stand over each child using a computer and monitor every web site that is opened. It is impossible. The so called security system that prevents students from going to "unapproved' places often DOES NOT WORK.. How do I know this......Because my wife used computers in her class and discovered first hand the flaws in the expensive CMS tax paid for security they say protects the children using the computers. When my wife brought this concern to the downtown school administrators they swept it under the carpet. After all big money deals were made and people had to get paid. They didnt want anyone to make waves.Who knows what the children will be seeing on their own unchecked computers at school. CMS for sure will not.
People would be shocked if they knew just how many times every day that students using CMS computers actually get into filty porn web sites. The teacher can not stand over each child using a computer and monitor every web site that is opened. It is impossible. The so called security system that prevents students from going to "unapproved' places often DOES NOT WORK.. How do I know this......Because my wife used computers in her class and discovered first hand the flaws in the expensive CMS tax paid for security they say protects the children using the computers. When my wife brought this concern to the downtown school administrators they swept it under the carpet. After all big money deals were made and people had to get paid. They didnt want anyone to make waves.Who knows what the children will be seeing on their own unchecked computers at school. CMS for sure will not.
I used to catch students by looking at the log for who was sitting at the desk with the particular computer. Although the students are usually a jump ahead when it comes to being able to get into the forbidden areas, they didn't think that the history could be checked. But, as you say, nothing is done. It is the same in practically all school districts all over the country. All students need are a comfortable desk, heat, air-condidioning, books, and a teacher that is serious about teaching. I know. I've been there and did that.
I used to catch students by looking at the log for who was sitting at the desk with the particular computer. Although the students are usually a jump ahead when it comes to being able to get into the forbidden areas, they didn't think that the history could be checked. But, as you say, nothing is done. It is the same in practically all school districts all over the country. All students need are a comfortable desk, heat, air-condidioning, books, and a teacher that is serious about teaching. I know. I've been there and did that.
Yes the history data can show who did what but with a large class of 30 computers who has time to be the "computer police" Its not the teachers job because she already has a job..I cant wait until little Johnnys mama discovers that he has been looking at porn while at school on his personal smart phone and then blames the school for it. After all they are paid to watch over and protect their children while at school....go figure Allowing kids to have free use of any device that can link to the internet is asking for trouble and its coming.
It is my understanding that personally owned devices will be forced through the systems security which is about 100 times better than your home security software...... Do you know what your child is doing on his/her computer right now?
Nothing is fool proof.
Pornography is nothing new at school. 40 or 50 years ago you could tell when school was out for the summer by the amount of Gents, Playboys, etc. strewn about the side of the road after lockers were cleaned out and the kids felt compelled to "released" them to the wilds from school bus windows on the way home.
A huge part of being literate today IS being computer literate. To pretend like it's still 1950 and have the kids exclude technology from the classroom would be irresponsible. I don't know how this will turn out, I am afraid theft would be a huge problem, BUT kudos to CMS for finally recognizing what century they're in, and trying something new.
Kids learn while using their phones, iPods, laptops, etc. My son has learned more history by looking up references from the Simpsons than he ever did by reading some dry text. Come to think of it, so have I!
I am all for technology. I am not for easy ways for small children to be exposed to porno . As far as the schools systems "security" being "100 times" better than home controlled security I question if this is fact or worthless opinion...School has never been the place where children can play with toys brought from home. Every effort should be made to keep cell phones ,Ipads, etc from being used as toys at school..Good luck on that one.I think not letting the kids bring computers and cell phones to school until they are in high school would be best.............but good luck with that too.
I am all for technology. I am not for easy ways for small children to be exposed to porno . As far as the schools systems "security" being "100 times" better than home controlled security I question if this is fact or worthless opinion...School has never been the place where children can play with toys brought from home. Every effort should be made to keep cell phones ,Ipads, etc from being used as toys at school..Good luck on that one.I think not letting the kids bring computers and cell phones to school until they are in high school would be best.............but good luck with that too.
Your comment "worthless opinion" is argumentative and I assume leveled at me.
I will ignore it for the moment and ask you to call your local school system and become more familiar with the dollars spent on security and filtering software. While any filtering and security software is only as good as the latest upgrade, they are far better than what I have installed at my home. I would assume not many of us are willing to spend thousands of dollars on such software. I would also be willing to guess most of us haven't initialized and rebuilt our HD's in years. Most school system do it several times per year.
20 years ago there were classroom where in 10 seconds the teacher couldn't monitor each and every computer connected to their classroom network. They could take control of each student's monitor, or delete/change/stop whatever they were doing in real time. Monitoring systems have only become more sophisticated in the last 2 decades. There are school systems in the Charlotte area that can re-image a computer from a remote location. In other words, a technician sitting in his office can monitor a particular computer and decide if it needs imaging, upgrading, supervision, turn it on or off, install time parameters for usage, etc. (There are school systems that have the ability to refresh/image each computer in each school lab or classroom every evening if they are so inclined.)
By virtue of signing a "bring your own device" contract, you will probably be giving system techs the right to examine and "cleanse" your computer/tablet/etc. at any time and to feed the MAC address into the system filtering/security software. BYOD is, after all, optional!
Do a search on sample BYOD policies for school systems. It is alternately called BYOT (Bring Your Own Technology) also. I believe the NCSBA (North Carolina School Board Association) has such a policy already created and ready for local systems to use if they so choose.
In one post it is said the CMS computer security is 100 of times better than what a person would have at home and the next post says it is "far "better" . This opinion is vague and really worthless in trying to understand just how reliable the cms "system" is. CMS does spend thousands on this all right many thousands. They also buy pencils for 4 to 5 bucks a pack when you can buy them at a dollar store for 99 cents. I am an insider to CMS and so is my wife and we know from where we speak. Where is the money going to come from to pay the hundreds of "techs" who would be needed to be doing all of this computer cleaning whatever that means? lol that is a joke . It sounds good but its not going to happen.
Crestliner your comments are "vague and worthless" at this point. I have tried to guide you to several points of reference to truly answer your questions, or at least gain some insight. Being an "insider" to CMS is not a "resume" for understanding the security and filtering processes. Do your homework.
I am NOT an insider to CMS, but apparently have done a bit more research than you have about the features of the new policies many school systems are about to roll out regarding BYOD/BYOT.
You obviously have a gripe more deeply rooted than the newest technology rollout. Air it in another thread.
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