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Old 01-03-2013, 03:06 PM
 
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I'd expected to see a discussion here. Did I miss it?

City landlords must register with police | CharlotteObserver.com
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Old 01-03-2013, 03:43 PM
 
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It's one more reason I'm not buying any more rentals in Charlotte. I do not trust future city councils. At some stage they'll use that database start a licensing and inspection program. Just more hassle and red tape.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:00 PM
 
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It will be interesting to see if someone challenges this ordinance in court on Constitutional grounds.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:26 PM
 
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What we NEED is for all these people renting who arent from the area to be registered with the police. Right now we HAVE NO WAY to know who they are,where they came from, are they wanted for crimes, do they have half a dozen fake names etc....etv etc etc etc That is what we need
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:05 PM
 
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It will be interesting to see if someone challenges this ordinance in court on Constitutional grounds.
Can you be more specific?
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:11 PM
 
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Raleigh has a registration system. I would think the NC legislature passed statutes general enough in nature for other cities to do it.
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:40 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Nothing to really discuss right now. The discussion will come when they get the bright idea to make landlords pay yearly permit fees and we have to increase rental rates across the board.

And don't think it won't happen. Anyone remember that "temporary" water rate hike a few years ago during the drought? Anyone see the rates adjust back?
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Old 01-04-2013, 06:08 AM
 
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What galls me is that they are treating investors like parolees or sex offenders. "Register with the police".

I've already seen comments on other websites about small landlords deciding to sell last year, as the $350 fees on the "worst 4%" took hold. The landlord had nothing to do with the crime, they had investments in "bad parts of town" and there is thuggery and mayhem going on due to the neighbors.

More landlords will sell rather than register. Landlords go to some effort to maintain privacy - they don't need tenants showing up unannounced at their personal residence, don't need attorneys adding up their properties and deciding you'd make a good case for a lawsuit. Don't need contractors and telemarketers calling up, pitching products.

I have made sure over the years to never post my real name, phone number, address or e-mail anywhere on the Internet. Is this database going to be only used by the police? Or will it be open to the public like POLARIS? If it's public, you can expect more small investors to leave the market.
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Old 01-04-2013, 08:07 AM
 
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Can you be more specific?
The requirement that a party who has committed no crime has to register with law enforcement like a sex offender or felon on parole. It sounds very Orwellian to me. It's what the Soviets did. Now we seem to think it's OK in the USSA too.

Under the US Constitution it's the citizen who reserves all rights not expressly authorized to the government in the Constitution. The police have no right to involve themselves in a legal and for that matter private business relationship between a landlord and tenant. If the landlord does not reside in NC, (or for that matter even Charlotte) I can see also where it would come up against the commerce clause of the Constitution. If they treat the two separately, then I can see where it could be in trouble with the equal protection clause.
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Old 01-04-2013, 08:12 AM
 
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The requirement that a party who has committed no crime has to register with law enforcement like a sex offender or felon on parole. It sounds very Orwellian to me. It's what the Soviets did. Now we seem to think it's OK in the USSA too.

Under the US Constitution it's the citizen who reserves all rights not expressly authorized to the government in the Constitution. The police have no right to involve themselves in a legal and for that matter private business relationship between a landlord and tenant. If the landlord does not reside in NC, (or for that matter even Charlotte) I can see also where it would come up against the commerce clause of the Constitution. If they treat the two separately, then I can see where it could be in trouble with the equal protection clause.
Yeah but people should start by complaining to their local governments. People are too quiet. Govco needs more negative feedback and it should be done slightly off kilter so they pay attention.

On the other hand EVERYONE has to register their alarm systems. I wonder if a freedom of information request could get you a list of everyone with an alarm system. If you had that you'd be able to create a list of those that don't.
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