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Old 04-01-2013, 08:45 PM
 
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In my opinion, Charlotte needs to pay for the stadium. Other cities like Atlanta would have no problem doing this.

A city being sued because of a reason leading back to the city not wanting to pay for stadium improvements is ridiculous and it's making Charlotte look bad.

LOL.
Atlanta just put up a couple hundred million for the Falcons. You always have someone showboating to try and make a point when these issues arise. You see it with WSOC's reporting about partial financial records. It is sensational journalism. You saw this with Jerry Reese.
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:36 PM
 
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In my opinion, Charlotte needs to pay for the stadium. Other cities like Atlanta would have no problem doing this.

A city being sued because of a reason leading back to the city not wanting to pay for stadium improvements is ridiculous and it's making Charlotte look bad.

LOL.
I hope you are paying from your pocket at least 2% of your money. If not you don't have right to tell others to pay.
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:38 PM
 
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In my opinion, Charlotte needs to pay for the stadium. Other cities like Atlanta would have no problem doing this.

A city being sued because of a reason leading back to the city not wanting to pay for stadium improvements is ridiculous and it's making Charlotte look bad.

LOL.

Btw : you don't live in Charlotte , so what gives you the right to ask city to pay up?
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:00 PM
 
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Btw : you don't live in Charlotte , so what gives you the right to ask city to pay up?
Um, I do live in Charlotte.

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I hope you are paying from your pocket at least 2% of your money. If not you don't have right to tell others to pay.
Others? You mean the city?

You'd think Charlotte would care a little more they could possibly be loosing their NFL team and a huge stadium could become vacant in Uptown, but I guess not.

I, personally, do not see the problem with the city paying for the stadium improvements. No need to get rude because you do.

Where is Carolinas Stadium Corp? They spent $248 million to build it.
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:37 AM
 
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Just because our last mayor did secret deals and got away with it dont mean Mr Fox can pull stuff like that. There has all ready been some shady deals gone down with Fox right in the middle of it. Politically stuff like this wont look good on his job application and Obama may scratch his name off any payola jobs hes giving out....We need to get rid of these deal makers. Richardson wanting to stack the deck and the downtown business good buddies want to stack it their way. I hope some people end up in jail over this.
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:43 AM
 
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In taking a read of the NC Statute concerning secret meetings, I believe the lawsuit may have some merit depending upon what is being alleged. It will be interesting to see if any meeting minutes are produced where member went on record to request such meetings.

Chapter 143 - Article 33C
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:16 AM
 
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In taking a read of the NC Statute concerning secret meetings, I believe the lawsuit may have some merit depending upon what is being alleged. It will be interesting to see if any meeting minutes are produced where member went on record to request such meetings.

Chapter 143 - Article 33C
No, this suit is showboating. Precedent has been set many times in situations like this. Interestingly, it may push the state harder to amend laws to help the team.
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:02 AM
 
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What a joke...
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:14 AM
 
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...Precedent has been set many times in situations like this. .....
There is no such thing as "setting precedent" in violation of state law.
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:33 AM
 
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There is no such thing as "setting precedent" in violation of state law.
(addressing several posts at once)

Am I missing something or has the lawsuit actually been filed? Sounds more like a press release has been filed unless I'm missing something.

So, for those that said they haven't read the lawsuit, of course you haven't since there isn't a lawsuit therefore the title of the thread is slightly misleading but that's not your point.

For those saying what Charlotte should or should not do, technically that's not what this thread is about either. The OP is talking about a lawsuit.

It doesn't matter where you are from you can post an opinion here but if you're doing a hit and run on our forum then stop but no one is.

This is not like the Knights suit because a specific violation has been noted which appears to have enough merit to move past initial stages. That doesn't mean it's right or wrong it just means taken as fact for consideration by the non-moving party at this stage it will be hard to dismiss. Of course one doesn't have to dismiss a lawsuit that hasn't been filed.

OP, I'm glad you read the statute. Spot me here. Where does it say anyone can sue for damages more than attorney fees? Estimating that in the seven figures at this point is ridiculous and therefore I have to think the whole thing is. Also why I didn't see it on the twitter even though there was a council meeting last night and tweet up of politicians/press. Of course it could hit today at least as an item to poke fun at.

You can't sue a government for something a government doesn't allow you in advance to sue them for. This is called sovereign immunity. You can't just say you want a million + because you want a million +.

The statute to me reads that the remedies are declaratory relief, meaning the filing party is asking the court to declare the city did something wrong and injunct or reverse such behavior and make the sued party pay the court fees.

So for now, without having time to research the lawyer before my Dr. appt I have to leave it at that. To recap, it will be hard to dismiss right now, it's BS for other reasons, and I didn't mention above but I think the city's lawyers are better than the assumed plaintiff who appears at this point to be chasing ambulances.

PS: The city attorney on staff is certainly better than the County staff attorney but that isn't so hard. I'm talking in house not the actual county attorney who is a contractor.
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