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Old 06-21-2013, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Ayrsley
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lol. SWA is a very specialist airline. They're a "discount" [I put that in qoutes because they really aren't]airline that only flies one model of boeings. They also have a very limited route schedule. They don't provide nearly the coverage and schedule as the other airlines do.
True. But they have made noises from time to time in recent years about expanding their routes and their fleets - I think some of the people in charge there want to build SWA into something that more closely resembles a typical legacy carrier. Whether or not that ever happens...we shall see.

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That being said, I like the option of SWA.
Not a fan - on the rare occasions I have flown on them, it has been as a last resort.

I'd like to see them introduce service to Europe in a standard 737
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:14 PM
 
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I work in the industry. I visit CLT frequently and have personal connections to CLT.

I think Charlotte will stay as a domestic hub but it wont likely see the international expansion that the airport envisions.

AA has PHL/JFK for European flights and MIA for Latin America. CLT serves as a good Southeast hub domestically. The new American isn't going to need to 3 European gateways on the east coast and 2 Latin American gateways on the east coast with DFW and ORD having significant service to Latin American.

What this hub talk should do is cause a temporary to possibly permanent scale back in the CLT expansion program. Right now, CLT plans for a 4th parallel runway at 12,000 feet long and it plans expansions to current terminals and to build a large new international terminal.

Currently, Charlotte has fairly limited international service compared to other major hubs. It only has one foreign overseas airline that serves Frankfurt. This flight serves the automobile industry in the Carolinas but Lufthansa is star alliance carrier whereas the new American will be One World. Will Lufthansa be able to serve the route without US sending connecting passengers? US Airways serves two Brazil cities, London and a bunch of Caribbean vacation destinations with seasonal service to a few European tourist cities.

Either way, I think Charlotte needs to see how the merger plays out before spending hundreds of millions of dollars on new terminals and runways.
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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True. But they have made noises from time to time in recent years about expanding their routes and their fleets - I think some of the people in charge there want to build SWA into something that more closely resembles a typical legacy carrier. Whether or not that ever happens...we shall see.



Not a fan - on the rare occasions I have flown on them, it has been as a last resort.

I'd like to see them introduce service to Europe in a standard 737
I like SWA because it drops the prices of the other airlines. You can fly a lot cheaper from RDU to Chicago [through CLT] due to SWA's large presence at RDU.

As I hinted at, the downside of SWA is the airport size needed. They only fly one kind of plane.
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Old 06-25-2013, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Look for Charlotte to go from 640 USAir flights a day to over 700 AA flights a day after merger.

Concourse E has 38 Gates, and is entirely used for US Airways Express, operating just over 340 flights per day (making it the largest express operation in the world).

The airport will only grown bigger.
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Old 06-25-2013, 07:18 PM
 
Location: The 12th State
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Senator Kay Hagan, announced Tuesday that she received a letter from US Airways CEO Doug Parker assuring her that Charlotte Douglas International Airport will remain a hub.
Hagan receives letter from US Airways CEO on Charlotte's hub sta - WBTV 3 News, Weather, Sports, and Traffic for Charlotte, NC
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Old 07-18-2013, 05:43 PM
 
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Cincinnati, CVG, got the same letter. Ironically, one of the reasons Chiquita left Cincinnati for Charlotte was because of the airport and it's South American connections. While I don't see AA downgrading CLT like Delta did with CVG... Charlotte is no Miami.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:57 PM
 
Location: south of north carolina
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Ironically, one of the reasons Chiquita left Cincinnati for Charlotte was because of the airport and it's South American connections. While I don't see AA downgrading CLT like Delta did with CVG... Charlotte is no Miami.
That isn't the point. Chiquita isn't gonna leave Charlotte for Miami, especially since they're relatively new.

"Miami is a strong local market and a fabulous gateway to Latin America. But there is no way it could replace our Charlotte hub with its ideal geographic location, strong local market, excellent infrastructure, and competitive costs," wrote US Airways CEO Doug Parker, who will run the new American Airlines.

It should also be pointed out Charlotte's hub will be the second largest, only after Dallas.
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Old 07-19-2013, 12:40 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I can see Charlotte losing all international flights with the exception of a daily to London (Gatwick) and Frankfurt with a seasonal flight to Paris and a couple popular Caribbean locations. You can kiss Lufthansa goodbye with no alliance feed now that US/AA is One World. Maybe BA will come in and operate the London flight.

As for Transcon flights, expect the frequencies to be scaled down by half or more to Western US destinations. You won't see four daily flights between CLT-SFO for example. One or perhaps two at the most as will be the case for most other transcon destinations.



Expect other hubs in locations with FAR more O&D like ORD, DFW, MIA, PHL and a lesser extent JFK to cannibalize many of those international and transcon flights.

Will Charlotte be another Pittsburgh? No, but expect to lose about 30% of the current traffic the airport now has. Charlotte will be a regional domestic hub serving as a connecting airport for flights between the North and Southeast.
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Old 07-19-2013, 01:02 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Senator Kay Hagan, announced Tuesday that she received a letter from US Airways CEO Doug Parker assuring her that Charlotte Douglas International Airport will remain a hub.
Hagan receives letter from US Airways CEO on Charlotte's hub sta - WBTV 3 News, Weather, Sports, and Traffic for Charlotte, NC
AA made the same promise to St. Louis and we all know how that turned out. The facts are undeniable that an airline doesn't need nine hubs or even eight for that matter. Parker's old US Airways had no Midwestern hub so all flights originating in the east for westbound destinations HAD to be routed through CLT. Not the case with monster hubs like ORD and DFW offering a better streamlined route structure with no backtracking

Charlotte and Phoenix are the two hubs I see taking the biggest hit in this merger deal.
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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The Obama Administration has filed a lawsuit to prevent the merger of the two airlines. The lawsuit was filed by Eric Holder via the Department of Justice.

IMO, this might be the end of those merger plans. I can't imagine the Airlines would want to fight Obama in court. Not much good business in it.

Hard to say if this is good or bad for Charlotte.
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