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Old 09-16-2013, 08:08 AM
 
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Definitely a lot of questions to be answered here. Seems like the articles suggest they were right to try to tase him at least. But if the taser didn't work and he was still supposedly "charging", why was it unnecessary to shoot him? I think the unnecessary part comes in when it says the officer shot him 3 times. I'd think one would have been enough, and if done in the right place ideally only injure him and not kill him.
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Old 09-16-2013, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Charlotte NC
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I miss the good ole days when police officers used their nightsticks...

too many unarmed people being killed these days.
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:17 AM
 
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I miss the good ole days when police officers used their nightsticks...

too many unarmed people being killed these days.
Exactly. I remember back in 91 my sister was dating a PA state trooper. He was 5'7". He was only on the force a few years. Not long before he was hired they dropped the size requirement to b a trooper. It think it was something like 5'10". Some people shouldn't b officers. Most departments don't even carry batons anymore. 20 30 years ago this young man would still b alive!
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:26 AM
 
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Huh? You're saying Ferrell would still be alive if this guy wasn't allowed to be a cop because he's too short? How do you even know how tall he is anyway?
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Charlotte,NC, US, North America, Earth, Alpha Quadrant,Milky Way Galaxy
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Private, legally armed citizen panics and makes the wrong decision - (Most likely) 2nd Degree Murder charge.

Uniformed government enforcer goon, armed at the tax payers' expense panics and makes the wrong decision - Voluntary Manslaughter charge that will at the very least get pleaded down, reduced, or (in the worst situation) dismissed completely.

Am I the only one that sees a problem here? We all know any of us that panicked would be facing the Murder rap. Tell your local/state/national representatives now: Uniform and a crooked government badge doesn't make you any better than the citizenry that pays you to abuse and murder us. Murder is murder is murder, and this trigger happy coward, like so many other cops, who was unwilling to accept the risks his voluntary job entails, decided to shoot instead of just physically restrain an innocent man who is now dead.

That's the thing...No one knows, and in this case we only have the officers on site and their testimony. So most likely given that this is the only evidence (other than the several bullets in the man's body) it will have to be manslaughter.

Like I said early - it doesn't make sense how "it's been explained". There was an incident in Florida earlier this year (I think over the summer) where a man was returning home to his *own house*, his own neighbor saw him and called the cops (apparently thinking he was burglar trying to break into the car/home). The cops show up, the man looks up/turns around and says something to the police, the police shoot at him *several times*, fortunately only one shot hit him in the leg. The man was unarmed, and it didn't look like he made *any* aggressive move towards the police based on his testimony. Had he died how do you think it would have been portrayed by the officers onsite?

So a reasonable person may determine that the incident on Reedy Creek appears to have holes in the story, however we can only go by the evidence pointing to "excessive use of force" (i.e., multiple bullets in his body) and the fact that the man was not armed.
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Hudson County, NJ
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What a terrible situation.

I see the cops side, that based on the information they were given they probably thought they were approaching a criminal (because of his approach to the woman's house, not his color). That in the back of their head, and the guy running at him, they thought the worst. Nevermind we just had someone in Times Square going wild with the cops trying to get them to shoot him (read as- people are crazy)

My condolences to the family of the victim, not quite sure what the appropriate restitution is in this case regarding the officers fate.
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:52 AM
 
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Huh? You're saying Ferrell would still be alive if this guy wasn't allowed to be a cop because he's too short? How do you even know how tall he is anyway?
No I'm saying that times have changed 20 30 years ago those 3 cops would have been big ol Boys one would have whacked him with the baton and the other 2 would have subdued him. U have lil petite women on the force now, and some tiny men. First thing they do is taser, if that doesn't work, let out a few rounds in him
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:56 AM
 
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That's the thing...No one knows, and in this case we only have the officers on site and their testimony. So most likely given that this is the only evidence (other than the several bullets in the man's body) it will have to be manslaughter.

Like I said early - it doesn't make sense how "it's been explained". There was an incident in Florida earlier this year (I think over the summer) where a man was returning home to his *own house*, his own neighbor saw him and called the cops (apparently thinking he was burglar trying to break into the car/home). The cops show up, the man looks up/turns around and says something to the police, the police shoot at him *several times*, fortunately only one shot hit him in the leg. The man was unarmed, and it didn't look like he made *any* aggressive move towards the police based on his testimony. Had he died how do you think it would have been portrayed by the officers onsite?

So a reasonable person may determine that the incident on Reedy Creek appears to have holes in the story, however we can only go by the evidence pointing to "excessive use of force" (i.e., multiple bullets in his body) and the fact that the man was not armed.
Have you seen the footage of the cops in Miami? 9 cops fired on a car killing the driver and injuring 4 bystanders. After the shooting stopped cops went car to car with guns drawn demanding they stop filming stomping on phones and arresting anyone who filmed.

Initially there was no weapon but 2 or 3 days later they said they found a semi auto weapon that was out of site. Never fired...

After brutal police shooting, Miami officers attempted to destroy video evidence - World Socialist Web Site

Judge Admonishes Miami Beach Attorneys In Memorial Day Shooting Probe « CBS Miami
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Charlotte NC
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Huh? You're saying Ferrell would still be alive if this guy wasn't allowed to be a cop because he's too short? How do you even know how tall he is anyway?
cops used to be larger and weren't afraid of mixing it up with perps... now it's tase and shoot to kill so the perp can't testify against the officers.
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Old 09-16-2013, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Charlotte,NC, US, North America, Earth, Alpha Quadrant,Milky Way Galaxy
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Have you seen the footage of the cops in Miami? 9 cops fired on a car killing the driver and injuring 4 bystanders. After the shooting stopped cops went car to car with guns drawn demanding they stop filming stomping on phones and arresting anyone who filmed.

Initially there was no weapon but 2 or 3 days later they said they found a semi auto weapon that was out of site. Never fired...

After brutal police shooting, Miami officers attempted to destroy video evidence - World Socialist Web Site

Judge Admonishes Miami Beach Attorneys In Memorial Day Shooting Probe « CBS Miami
Unfortunately I did...I grew up in Miami and saw things like that from time to time.
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