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Old 10-27-2013, 07:50 AM
 
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Calvary Church among Charlotte area churches to drop Boy Scouts program | CharlotteObserver.com

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Old 10-27-2013, 11:40 AM
 
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I'm OK with this. Anything to show the nation that religion has lost it's purpose, and it's time to move on. You shouldn't need threats to be a good person and or do good things.
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Old 10-27-2013, 12:09 PM
 
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I wonder if they have girl scouts because girl scouts have officially welcomed EVERYONE forever. It doesn't make news because it's not a big deal for the organization.
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Old 10-27-2013, 12:30 PM
 
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I will continue to say this . . . really sad that at this point in the evolution of humanity that here in America there are still folks who wish to discriminate against others (especially children!) b/c of their sexual orientation.

We are much too focused on the politics of genitalia in this country.
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Old 10-27-2013, 12:43 PM
 
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I will continue to say this . . . really sad that at this point in the evolution of humanity that here in America there are still folks who wish to discriminate against others (especially children!) b/c of their sexual orientation.

We are much too focused on the politics of genitalia in this country.
+10, Ani.

My first memory of this problem that we have was seeing the reactions of adults to the Profumo Scandal. For those who are too young to remember, it's been renamed, but here's a link. Profumo Affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Most of us have moved on, but some people, apparently, just can't let go of the 19th century.
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Old 10-27-2013, 12:48 PM
 
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+10, Ani.

My first memory of this problem that we have was seeing the reactions of adults to the Profumo Scandal. For those who are too young to remember, it's been renamed, but here's a link. Profumo Affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Most of us have moved on, but some people, apparently, just can't let go of the 19th century.
I can see how folks would question situations where national secrets or the national security is being put at risk. I can at least follow the line of thinking even if it is over-reaching and bedroom politics -- and typically used to simply end a person's public life/service.

I can't follow the line of thinking with a church wanting to distance itself from an organization that is open to ALL boys and that fosters everything from good citizenship to self-reliance.
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Old 10-27-2013, 01:01 PM
 
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I can see how folks would question situations where national secrets or the national security is being put at risk. I can at least follow the line of thinking even if it is over-reaching and bedroom politics -- and typically used to simply end a person's public life/service.

I can't follow the line of thinking with a church wanting to distance itself from an organization that is open to ALL boys and that fosters everything from good citizenship to self-reliance.
The reason that I so clearly remember Profumo was that we were still in Michigan & all of the adults went on & on about the sexual part of the scandal as if Mr. Profumo lived down the street from them.

I agree with your feelings about this church but I've seen such things done by churches all my life. I think that it's hypocritical, but I also think that these people just haven't moved from where they & their ancestors were decades & centuries ago.
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Old 10-27-2013, 02:13 PM
 
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The reason that I so clearly remember Profumo was that we were still in Michigan & all of the adults went on & on about the sexual part of the scandal as if Mr. Profumo lived down the street from them.

I agree with your feelings about this church but I've seen such things done by churches all my life. I think that it's hypocritical, but I also think that these people just haven't moved from where they & their ancestors were decades & centuries ago.
I am sure gay kids have been members of all sorts of organizations, including churches, throughout the centuries. What gets me is . . . once folks self-identify, then suddenly, organizations turn against them, as if they are no longer worthy of being one of God's children.

I don't understand why any church would find excluding a group b/c they welcome all boys to be an acceptable way to minister to the community. It is homophobic and cruel.

For a church to do that, it obviously is b/c the members of the church feel the Boy Scouts do not represent what their church represents. What I am left to surmise is that Calvery Church does not welcome gay children. Wow.
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Old 10-27-2013, 02:39 PM
 
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I am sure gay kids have been members of all sorts of organizations, including churches, throughout the centuries. What gets me is . . . once folks self-identify, then suddenly, organizations turn against them, as if they are no longer worthy of being one of God's children.

I don't understand why any church would find excluding a group b/c they welcome all boys to be an acceptable way to minister to the community. It is homophobic and cruel.

For a church to do that, it obviously is b/c the members of the church feel the Boy Scouts do not represent what their church represents. What I am left to surmise is that Calvery Church does not welcome gay children.
Wow.
Ani, I draw the same conclusion. I am a Michigan native & spent my childhood in the Catholic church. My family was mixed, religiously. We had to be open in our religious attitudes to co-exist. This created problems with the nuns in religion class.

I have only attended Catholic churches for weddings & funerals since I got my driving license at 17. I identify more with the Quakers who I found in the Philadelphia area. South Jersey has a strong evangelical presence. One of my grandmothers, in Michigan, belonged to the Church of God & they required her to tithe money that she needed for survival.

My opinion is that there are some churches where they put dogma before people. I think that it's sad. I hope that people who belong to this & every other church that are good with discrimination against children leave & find another church. Sadly, that probably won't happen.
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Old 10-27-2013, 03:22 PM
 
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Ani, I draw the same conclusion. I am a Michigan native & spent my childhood in the Catholic church. My family was mixed, religiously. We had to be open in our religious attitudes to co-exist. This created problems with the nuns in religion class.

I have only attended Catholic churches for weddings & funerals since I got my driving license at 17. I identify more with the Quakers who I found in the Philadelphia area. South Jersey has a strong evangelical presence. One of my grandmothers, in Michigan, belonged to the Church of God & they required her to tithe money that she needed for survival.

My opinion is that there are some churches where they put dogma before people
. I think that it's sad. I hope that people who belong to this & every other church that are good with discrimination against children leave & find another church. Sadly, that probably won't happen.
That says it all . . .
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