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Old 03-12-2014, 12:24 PM
 
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Can you be redistricted once you are in Union Academy? I'm just saying, some people will opt for stability vs an increased distance. You can't lump everyone into the same bucket.
Redd, I'm not lumping you in with either camp. Everyone has their reasons apparently.

 
Old 03-12-2014, 12:24 PM
 
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Thanks,
Also, is there a better map of each district other than what is on the website? Can't really tell where the lines are drawn.
This map on the board of elections website is much better...

http://www.co.union.nc.us/Portals/0/BOE/Maps/school.pdf
 
Old 03-12-2014, 12:33 PM
 
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I'm curious to see what the lawsuit claims and what they are asking. There were several legal experts that the media interviewed and they have all said that everything was done legally. Even if there were underlying reasons for the BOE to make the changes, they still had every legal right to do so. If one suddenly said "Hey, I want to move our boundaries" and 4 others agreed, its all legal. And we can argue about guidelines until the cows come home, but those are so vague, nothing will stick. They can be interpreted differently by anyone with a varying viewpoint.

Both a reversal or an injunction would have to be against the legality of the moves and I don't see any. If they are trying to dig up conspiracy and hearsay items I don't think it will fly.

I'm not the expert, but the media did interview experts, so I'm going with that.
Personally I don't think the lawsuit will change anything. That won't stop me from supporting it 100% though. I just really hope that I get to see old Yercheck have to put his hand on the Bible and swear in front of his maker that this was all just because a few schools were overcrowded. I wouldn't want to be standing near him if he does.
 
Old 03-12-2014, 01:50 PM
 
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Personally I don't think the lawsuit will change anything. That won't stop me from supporting it 100% though. I just really hope that I get to see old Yercheck have to put his hand on the Bible and swear in front of his maker that this was all just because a few schools were overcrowded. I wouldn't want to be standing near him if he does.
I don't know what the angle for the lawsuit is but if done right I don't think a temporary injunctoin is out of the realm of possibility.

Not speaking of UCPS redistricting... but in general, public officials are held to a higher standard than just "was it legal?". There are oaths of office, guiding principles, policies, and core values that the public has a reasonable expectation will be followed and upheld. At times there are measures of reasonableness that can and should be questioned.
 
Old 03-12-2014, 01:56 PM
 
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I don't know what the angle for the lawsuit is but if done right I don't think a temporary injunctoin is out of the realm of possibility.

Not speaking of UCPS redistricting... but in general, public officials are held to a higher standard than just "was it legal?". There are oaths of office, guiding principles, policies, and core values that the public has a reasonable expectation will be followed and upheld. At times there are measures of reasonableness that can and should be questioned.
I agree, I think that the best they can hope for is an injunction. Down here though, cases seem to take a weird turn at times. Just depends on who the judge is, who he hunts with and the points of the case. If they can get it on a docket, then the can depose Yercheck, Stewart, Ellis et. all. That's when its going to get interesting.

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Old 03-12-2014, 02:34 PM
 
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I don't know what the angle for the lawsuit is but if done right I don't think a temporary injunctoin is out of the realm of possibility.

Not speaking of UCPS redistricting... but in general, public officials are held to a higher standard than just "was it legal?". There are oaths of office, guiding principles, policies, and core values that the public has a reasonable expectation will be followed and upheld. At times there are measures of reasonableness that can and should be questioned.
I've never known the courts to be very interested in being the referees for 'measures of reasonableness,' there have to be legal claims to get this thing off the ground. I can understand Jlat's 100% support but I'd be skeptical about giving your 100% financial support. Has this 'charitable organization filed with the state, or are these checks going to our ill-mannered FB 'activists'?
 
Old 03-12-2014, 02:39 PM
 
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I've never known the courts to be very interested in being the referees for 'measures of reasonableness,' there have to be legal claims to get this thing off the ground. I can understand Jlat's 100% support but I'd be skeptical about giving your 100% financial support. Has this 'charitable organization filed with the state, or are these checks going to our ill-mannered FB 'activists'?
Great question 'Doc!
 
Old 03-12-2014, 02:44 PM
 
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I agree, I think that the best they can hope for is an injunction. Down here though, cases seem to take a weird turn at times. Just depends on who the judge is, who he hunts with and the points of the case. If they can get it on a docket, then the can depose Yercheck, Stewart, Ellis et. all. That's when its going to get interesting.



I cant remember if it was Stewart or Yercheck who went on record saying they spoke to all of the top safety officials in UC. Yet when contacted by the parents, the UC Fire Marshal said that he nor his staff was ever contacted by anyone from the BOE. He then went on to advise that "Core Capacity" is basically the biggest load of BS and he didn't know how that term got started. When questioned from a safety aspect about school size, he said that NONE of the UC schools are even close to being overcrowded enough to have any safety concern....but wait, we should just believe the BOE because they said so, right
 
Old 03-12-2014, 02:46 PM
 
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I've never known the courts to be very interested in being the referees for 'measures of reasonableness,' there have to be legal claims to get this thing off the ground. I can understand Jlat's 100% support but I'd be skeptical about giving your 100% financial support. Has this 'charitable organization filed with the state, or are these checks going to our ill-mannered FB 'activists'?
Highly doubt they would have had the time to incorporate correctly as a true non profit.While the articles can be filed rapidly with the NC Secretary of State for a corp very quickly, the actual designation from the IRS can take months to years. Either way the lawyers bills will continue to pile up. Remember the ill fated takeover of the CLT airport. One of the sticking points of the second commision was the hundreds of thousands of dollars of legal fees they were racking up during the scuffle.
 
Old 03-12-2014, 02:57 PM
 
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I cant remember if it was Stewart or Yercheck who went on record saying they spoke to all of the top safety officials in UC.
It was "Mr Safety" Kevin Stewart.
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