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Old 01-21-2014, 07:20 AM
 
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I have read this thread as it has grown since last week. I attended the Facilities Committee meeting at the Walter Bickett Education Center when this redistricting plan was proposed. More alternatives to relieve the overcrowding need to be presented in more detail so that the discussions/debate can include all options. Right now as it stands, I feel redistricting is the only option but is the only option that has been presented to the public.

I think the BOE will not request building more schools right now. Why? because the current BOCC board and BOE board have a rocky, difficult, etc., relationship especially with the pending lawsuit from last years budget. How can the BOE request new money for schools from the BOCC when (1) there are spaces at other schools that have yet to be utilized and (2) they have NOT settled the lawsuit yet. The BOCC are holding some of the roof repair money as a carrot to settle the lawsuit.

From my involvement in my child's PTO (along with every PTO in the county) I was there at BOCC meetings when we were fighting for teacher assistants when Dean Arp was chair of the BOE. There was some animosity between the two boards even then. From what I could observe, there was some level of distrust between the boards even then BUT they were able to get to the table and avoid the courtroom in order to work out their differences.

So I encourage anyone to attend tonight's BOCC meeting and speak at public comment if you're so inclined. These two boards need to get past this lawsuit mess and start working together for a long term solution. And do what is better for all of the students of Union County which includes the schools who have trash cans out on rainy days to the overcrowded ones.

 
Old 01-21-2014, 07:21 AM
 
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Wesley Chapel is voting on a resolution opposing the redistricting of the schools tonight 7 PM.

Village of Wesley Chapel, NC*

Not sure what effect this will have, if any, or any other areas in Union County affected.
Aside from making the mayor and council members look good, it doesn't do or guarantee anything. They could actually be in favor of the redistricting and still pass a resolution against it because it is meaningless.
 
Old 01-21-2014, 07:25 AM
 
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What is the solution for the overcapacity schools? Whatever it is, I feel will only be a short term fix. So what then?

I think that all of the boards- BOCC, BOE, and all of the municipalities need to come together and at least get on the same page specifically when it comes to growth. I understand that they are independent and do not require permission to govern but need to recognize and acknowledge the decisions that the towns make have an effect and indirectly impact their neighboring towns/jurisdictions and infrastructure.
 
Old 01-21-2014, 07:33 AM
 
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Wesley Chapel is voting on a resolution opposing the redistricting of the schools tonight 7 PM.

Village of Wesley Chapel, NC*

Not sure what effect this will have, if any, or any other areas in Union County affected.
This is nothing more than Wesley Chapel's elected officials gaining favor with their constituents. When the redistricting happens they can say they did all they could...

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So I encourage anyone to attend tonight's BOCC meeting and speak at public comment if you're so inclined. These two boards need to get past this lawsuit mess and start working together for a long term solution. And do what is better for all of the students of Union County which includes the schools who have trash cans out on rainy days to the overcrowded ones.
I was wondering this myself - excellent point... why is everyone looking to beat up the BOE and give the BOC a pass?
 
Old 01-21-2014, 07:37 AM
 
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Wesley Chapel is voting on a resolution opposing the redistricting of the schools tonight 7 PM.

Village of Wesley Chapel, NC*

Not sure what effect this will have, if any, or any other areas in Union County affected.
Yeah can't wait to hear that proposal....I'm sure Millbridge will be mentioned again as the outcast. Seems that whole area wants that. Maybe they will mention the petition at the school as well.
 
Old 01-21-2014, 07:38 AM
 
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Aside from making the mayor and council members look good, it doesn't do or guarantee anything. They could actually be in favor of the redistricting and still pass a resolution against it because it is meaningless.
What does Waxhaw say? A lot of conflicted interests there.

What does Indian Trail say? More conflicted interests.


Marvin may not say it's in support of redistricting but it is also not in support of the current cap or overcrowding situation at Sandy Ridge ES or MRMS. And they see the cap coming at MRHS.

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Just look at the letter from Marvin's Mayor.


Commissioners.
As elected officials of the Village, we are limited on what we can do within the County school system.

However, we (current and past council) have continually expressed our concerns about the explosive
growth in our area. Our part in controlling growth is through our ordinances which limit the density of
our community to less than one housing unit per acre. We will continue to enforce these ordinances that
limit the number of homes that can be built which, in turn affects how many students attend our schools.

Currently there is no reporting mechanism on growth. One of our main concerns is with the limited
amount of information the County and School Administration is receiving to accurately project the
number of homes being built and the number of students in each respective town. It is our belief that
through an accurate reporting mechanism the County will have a better understanding of “true growth”,
and be in a better position to fund appropriate areas.

The Marvin Village Council will continue to work diligently to attempt to keep the Marvin cluster
together and propose that the Board of Education seek alternatives where possible. We will do what we
can to ensure our residents’ concerns are addressed and to protect our community. We encourage you to
contact the members of the Union County Board of Education with your thoughts and suggestions to
help remedy this situation. The Board of Education website is located at Union County Public Schools - Preparing All Students to Succeed.

Respectfully,
Joe Pollino, Mayor

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Old 01-21-2014, 08:00 AM
 
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This is nothing more than Wesley Chapel's elected officials gaining favor with their constituents. When the redistricting happens they can say they did all they could...



I was wondering this myself - excellent point... why is everyone looking to beat up the BOE and give the BOC a pass?
Maybe there is a conspiracy going on. Perhaps the BOE intentionally agitated the masses to get them to vote out the BOCC in the spring Primary? if that's the case kudos to them!
 
Old 01-21-2014, 08:22 AM
 
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Marvin may not say it's in support of redistricting but it is also not in support of the current cap or overcrowding situation at Sandy Ridge ES or MRMS. And they see the cap coming at MRHS.

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Just look at the letter from Marvin's Mayor.


Commissioners.
As elected officials of the Village, we are limited on what we can do within the County school system.

However, we (current and past council) have continually expressed our concerns about the explosive
growth in our area. Our part in controlling growth is through our ordinances which limit the density of
our community to less than one housing unit per acre. We will continue to enforce these ordinances that
limit the number of homes that can be built which, in turn affects how many students attend our schools.

Currently there is no reporting mechanism on growth. One of our main concerns is with the limited
amount of information the County and School Administration is receiving to accurately project the
number of homes being built and the number of students in each respective town. It is our belief that
through an accurate reporting mechanism the County will have a better understanding of “true growth”,
and be in a better position to fund appropriate areas.

The Marvin Village Council will continue to work diligently to attempt to keep the Marvin cluster
together and propose that the Board of Education seek alternatives where possible. We will do what we
can to ensure our residents’ concerns are addressed and to protect our community. We encourage you to
contact the members of the Union County Board of Education with your thoughts and suggestions to
help remedy this situation. The Board of Education website is located at Union County Public Schools - Preparing All Students to Succeed.

Respectfully,
Joe Pollino, Mayor
What does this even mean?? Can someone translate? Keeping the cluster together??...does that mean he wants to keep packing then in like sardines?
 
Old 01-21-2014, 08:26 AM
 
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What does this even mean?? Can someone translate? Keeping the cluster together??...does that mean he wants to keep packing then in like sardines?
I read it the same way as you did, pack 'em in
 
Old 01-21-2014, 08:33 AM
 
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I think he means, leave our expensive Marvin neighborhoods alone, and draw the lines somewhere else. I doubt he wants to keep the cluster together as much as the Village of Marvin.
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