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Old 12-10-2007, 11:21 PM
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Default Will The New Sheriff And Police Chief create more crime?

I am not use to living in a place that City Cops and County deputies work together under one force or is it?

I am use to their being a seperation in powers the city police handle the law matters within the city limits and the county deputies handle things in the county and duties of the court.

My perception in Mecklenburg County is that each city has it police force and handle matters within their juristiction since far as I know about every city has police force unless it annexed by another city.
So I am presuming the deputies handle matters of the court and the jail?

Is the police chief a posistion under the Sheriff? If so is their a power issue?and what exactly is the Sheriff responsibilities in this county?

I am concern about this election fiasco that only a select democrat group get to decide who the next Sheriff is and is this temporary or is the Sheriff posistion not a county wide elected posistion?

I have yet to hear how things will be better relating to crime in the area with the new officials, and I am really concern that their will be friction within the police forces and lack of ability to keep Charlotte from receiving a bad place to live due to crime. A stigma that cities with a crime image have a hard time to shake off.
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Old 12-10-2007, 11:41 PM
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I don't know the answer to your questions, but I say give the guy a chance!
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I don't think that the chief and the sheriff are inter-twined. I believe the city manager hires the police chief, while the sheriff is an elected position.

It's tough to tell how the recent fiasco with the sheriff will affect crime, as I have a feeling it was pulled in order to end the 287G program. I for one am not comfortable with a sheriff who has such questionable personal ethics running a $1.4 million budget.
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Old 12-11-2007, 05:37 AM
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It's tough to tell how the recent fiasco with the sheriff will affect crime, as I have a feeling it was pulled in order to end the 287G program. I for one am not comfortable with a sheriff who has such questionable personal ethics running a $1.4 million budget.

+1000.

The outgoing sheriff was extremely well respected across the aisle.
He said he would not rehire the gentleman that somehow became the new sheriff.

Now I fear the inmates are running the asylum.

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Actually, Nick Mackey was never a sheriff's deputy. He was a CMPD police officer. I believe it was his police captain who said he'd never rehire him.
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Old 12-11-2007, 06:13 AM
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I just feel like we know nothing about Mackay. Has he given interviews? Anything I HAVE heard has not been good.
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Actually, Nick Mackey was never a sheriff's deputy. He was a CMPD police officer. I believe it was his police captain who said he'd never rehire him.
You are correct, I misspoke.
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Sheriffs Offices are different than police departments. The Sheriff is an elected person. He has the most authority in any county, and can hire and fire his employees at will. Unlike the city police or Highway Patrol where there must be a valid documented reason for the firing. It is an elected position, a political position, and every 4 years is election time. Unfortunately, most Sheriff employees are at the risk of getting pink slips should a different political party take control as Sheriff. Sheriffs Offices are responsible mostly for serving papers, warrants, subpoenas, running the jail, processing inmates, and protecting courts and government buildings. These duties vary from county to county.

In rural counties where there may not be a city with its own police department, the Sheriffs role is far wider in that they are not only responsible for jails and the courts, but also all law enforcement duties in that county, including and not limited investigating crimes, traffic enforcement, road patrol, and all calls for service.

And any part of a county that is not incorporated by a city, the county (Sheriff) will assume all law enforcement duties of the unincorporated areas.

Mecklenburg county is unique in that almost the entire county is under the jurisdiction of some police department. Therefore, almost the sole responsibility of the Meck Sheriff is maintaining jails, serving papers, protecting the courts and government buildings. The Sheriff still has jursdiction and arrest powers over the entire county, even inside Charlotte, Huntersville, etc.

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Default interesting background on Sheriff's Dept in Meck Co

Brief History of the Sheriff's Office

The office of sheriff can be traced to Biblical times.
Among English speaking peoples, only the office of king is older.
English sheriffs trace the roots of their office to the Saxons in the 9th century.
The powers and duties of the office remain, for the most part, unchanged.
The office of sheriff is constitutionally mandated in NC.
It is an elected law enforcement office.
The sheriff has duties in all three branches of law enforcement: Policing, Courts/Criminal Justice and Corrections/Jail.
In North Carolina, the sheriff is elected to a 4-year term.
A county sheriff is responsible not to county authorities but to the citizens of the county.
County governments are responsible for providing funding to the Sheriff's Office.
Key Dates in History of the Mecklenburg County Sheriff's Office

1738 - The Colonial Assembly created the office of Territorial Sheriff.
1763 - Anson County was divided to create Mecklenburg County.
1768 - Charlotte was founded as the County Seat.
1770 - Records show Mecklenburg County had a Sheriff.
1773 - Thomas Harris, the last colonial sheriff, was appointed by the Royal Government.
1776 - State of North Carolina declared its independence from Great Britain.
1776 - Thomas Harris appointed first sheriff.
1806 - State Law created the North Carolina Superior Court.
1829 - Statutes amended to provide for election of sheriff by popular vote.
1865 - Town of Charlotte Police Department established, leaving Sheriff to serve as chief law enforcement office of rural areas of county.
1917 - Mecklenburg County Board of Commissioners, under special legislative authority, organize Mecklenburg Rural Police under Sheriff's direction.
1925 - Rural Police placed under the Mecklenburg County Board of Commissioners.
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I am not use to living in a place that City Cops and County deputies work together under one force or is it?

I am use to their being a seperation in powers the city police handle the law matters within the city limits and the county deputies handle things in the county and duties of the court.

My perception in Mecklenburg County is that each city has it police force and handle matters within their juristiction since far as I know about every city has police force unless it annexed by another city.
So I am presuming the deputies handle matters of the court and the jail?

Is the police chief a posistion under the Sheriff? If so is their a power issue?and what exactly is the Sheriff responsibilities in this county?

I am concern about this election fiasco that only a select democrat group get to decide who the next Sheriff is and is this temporary or is the Sheriff posistion not a county wide elected posistion?

I have yet to hear how things will be better relating to crime in the area with the new officials, and I am really concern that their will be friction within the police forces and lack of ability to keep Charlotte from receiving a bad place to live due to crime. A stigma that cities with a crime image have a hard time to shake off.
CMPD Police Chief and Meck County Sheriff have nothing to do with each other. Meck County Sheriff runs the detention facilities in Meck County, provides security for the courts, serves legal papers - warrants, court orders, etc., and will get involved in some other stuff like the immigration enforcement program. The CMPD Police Chief handles crime in the City of Charlotte and in the unincorporated areas of Meck County. There's also some other stuff they oversee or are involve in, like Homeland Security or Animal Control. Of course the nature of the work means there will be some overlap between the CMPD and the Meck County Sheriff's Office, but in general, they will not directly impact one another.
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