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Old 07-19-2014, 06:35 PM
 
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Sounds as if you should look for a private, charter or other alternative to the public school system.
I know sarcasm is a hard concept to understand in UC.

At times I love Waldo, at other times well, No...

 
Old 07-20-2014, 08:52 AM
 
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No need to be confused. Par for the course with this group. There's another post on the Charlotte CD page about someone looking for a voodoo priestess. Wouldn't be surprised if that was CAPS's next tactic.
Hysterical!
 
Old 07-20-2014, 11:20 AM
 
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I know sarcasm is a hard concept to understand in UC.

At times I love Waldo, at other times well, No...
If I got it wrong, I apoligise. It's hard to keep up with all of it sometimes.
 
Old 07-20-2014, 12:40 PM
 
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Hysterical!
glad you find humor in all this raith
 
Old 07-20-2014, 05:16 PM
 
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Indeed. It's the difference between reporting, and repeating gossip and hearsay. In comparison it's interesting how that not "impartial reporter" from WJZY has remained silent about the details of what happened in that court room even though he sat in there the entire time. That while his article on WJZY's website has all the complaints that CAPS has made and absolutely no counterpoint from the school system.

They need better standards at WJZY if they want to be taken seriously as a real news station. Otherwise it's just a bunch of millennials running around with video cameras with nothing relevant to say.

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In any case, it all comes down to what I said months ago. CAPS has to demonstrate the "harm" caused by the redistricting to the students. They have yet to answer that.

being forced to be on a bus at 6:05 am for an hour to a lesser performing school is harm..
 
Old 07-20-2014, 07:22 PM
 
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being forced to be on a bus at 6:05 am for an hour to a lesser performing school is harm..
Though they are definitely inconvenient and unfortunate, the judge doesn't see those types of things as being harm stemming from violations of open meetings law (the focus of CAPS lawsuit).

Before recessing the hearing, Inman asked Sistrunk to name what harms would be done to the plaintiffs if redistricting was allowed to move forward. He said the people would have been robbed of open and honest government. Inman disagreed, citing the multiple public hearings.
“There’s an immediate impact on property values,” Sistrunk said.
“So we are talking about property values? Before you said that wasn’t a reason,” Inman said.
“Yes,” Sistrunk said.
He also cited disruption for families who might need to move. Safety is a concern for families who take advantage of the grandfathering amendment and use their own transportation to stay at former schools. And students assigned to new schools would be harmed by leaving behind friends and teachers.
Inman said she did not see those as “harms that stem from violations of the open meetings law.”

Parents argue for redistricting injunction | The Enquirer Journal
 
Old 07-20-2014, 07:48 PM
 
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okay humor me: if you pick up all the students from a school rated 9 or 10 and move 100% of them to a school currently rated a 4 or 5 do you think the school rating of the school they are now at (the 4-5 school) will go up or will it stay at the the level it was at when you moved those kids in?

Or if you would rather completely change out the teachers, switch the 4-5 school teachers with all the 9-10 teachers and what will happen?

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Old 07-20-2014, 08:04 PM
 
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I really don't give a damn what the judge thinks, feels, or decides.....
 
Old 07-20-2014, 08:37 PM
 
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Since this won't happen to 100% of the students..I'm not going to entertain the obvious answer..however I did just move here 3 yrs ago from where your above example did move about 30% - it didn't go well for the better students....In another school (Title1) that school didn't meet AYP for 2 yrs in a row - those parents were able to send their kids to a better school. (258 kids) and the kids being so behind - in addition to being 'troubled ' brought the scores of the whole school down - teachers time was spent on behavior and catching kids up - it killed the schools scores...2 yrs later..shockingly - the requirement/law changed and the "bad" school enacted a "targeted assistance plan" instead and those poor performing students went back to their old school. The good school was restored -
The bad school still benefited - the county put their IB program in that counties worst HS - those kids are completely segregated - their own wing, police officer, etc....and by just including those few IB grades in, that schools scores were instantly - and inflated...increased by 45%

So I'm not new to school politics - but to think bringing in smart kids to lower performing schools will help - you couldn't be more wrong - the opposite happens (duh)...so yes - families will move, or go elsewhere and the lower schools will fall further...I'd go on with more of what I witnesses in MD - but I'm sure you won't care to here it - I hate when history repeats itself -
 
Old 07-20-2014, 09:13 PM
 
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okay humor me: if you pick up all the students from a school rated 9 or 10 and move 100% of them to a school currently rated a 4 or 5 do you think the school rating of the school they are now at (the 4-5 school) will go up or will it stay at the the level it was at when you moved those kids in?

Or if you would rather completely change out the teachers, switch the 4-5 school teachers with all the 9-10 teachers and what will happen?
I think in both cases the 4 or 5 school would go up, but probably switching the students would have the most effect.

The best teachers often have their pick of schools and work at the 9 or 10 schools, not that there are not good teachers at the 4 or 5 schools too. Unfortunately, the schools with the struggling students don't often get the cream of the crop teachers. For the same pay, why would a teacher choose to work at a school with a lot of ESL students or students with IEPs? You do a lot more paperwork for the same pay. For the same reason, within a given school, the best teachers often teach the AP and Honors classes. They don't want to teach the class where every student has a testing accommodation or half the parents have to be called to inform them that their child has failed a test. If we want excellent teachers for all our students, they need to all be paid as professionals and there needs to be a pay differential for those willing to take on the more challenging assignments. Of course, in NC, hell will freeze over before we see that happen.
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