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Old 07-14-2015, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Asheville
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No, you're not wrong. But you do have unrealistic expectations.
Unrealistic expectations? Building a entrance on the sidewalk side of a building to attract a higher walkable score is unrealistic?
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Asheville
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Mint Hill isn't Asheville. Its a suburban community. They instituted a downtown overlay district. It isn't designed to create an old time downtown district, its designed to create a "downtown for a newish, suburban town. I can understand that you would like something else. perhaps you should run for town council or Mayor.
Mint Hill is a town, yes a suburb of Charlotte, but it's own town. And yes they wanted to build a walkable town in Mint Hill. Why do you think they built the sidewalks. Towns often look and model after other towns and cities to gain knowledge of what should or should not be done. Greenville and Asheville are what most small towns are trying to model after including Mint Hill. Why do you think there is a ordinance to build close to the street; to create that look. They needed one more step to get it.
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Southport
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Unrealistic expectations? Building a entrance on the sidewalk side of a building to attract a higher walkable score is unrealistic?
No expecting a downtown from scratch in 2015 that looks like a downtown built in the pre-automobile era is unrealistic.
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Southport
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Mint Hill is a town, yes a suburb of Charlotte, but it's own town. And yes they wanted to build a walkable town in Mint Hill. Why do you think they built the sidewalks. Towns often look and model after other towns and cities to gain knowledge of what should or should not be done. Greenville and Asheville are what most small towns are trying to model after including Mint Hill. Why do you think there is a ordinance to build close to the street; to create that look. They needed one more step to get it.
Yeah, I got that. My point is that its a relatively new, almost entirely suburban town (as opposed to Greenville and Asheville that were founded in the 18th century), that is now trying to go back and create a central core. To expect that newly created core to look like it was built in 1900 isn't realistic.

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Old 07-14-2015, 03:01 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Don't think there's room for that by the HT/Publix...

OP, I noticed in the beginning of the video you said "this all is the same." I don't think that's entirely true as I'm pretty sure the sidewalk on the right hand side in the beginning of the video is relatively new and continues all the way throughout the video. I know that's not much but it's more than some other areas can say. I believe they were also working on (maybe even done now?) continuing it all the way into Matthews town limits.
The sidewalks on both sides are far enough from the road to accommodate future widening. It may be enough to get additional travel lanes in, but limited on bicycle lanes.
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Old 07-14-2015, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Asheville
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The sidewalks on both sides are far enough from the road to accommodate future widening. It may be enough to get additional travel lanes in, but limited on bicycle lanes.
Have you ever been to Hilton Head? They have the best bike lanes I have ever seen. On the Kenai Peninsula in Alaska, believe it or not, have ones like that too. That was the first place I had ever seen Bike Lanes, or Bike Trails as they refer to them.
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Old 07-14-2015, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Asheville
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Yeah, I got that. My point is that its a relatively new, almost entirely suburban town (as opposed to Greenville and Asheville that were founded in the 18th century), that is now trying to go back and create a central core. To expect that newly created core to look like it was built in 1900 isn't realistic.
I realize the buildings are not going to look like the old buildings, I'm referring where they face. Yes, it would be more expensive to build the architecture of the older building from 100 years ago but you can still make the front face the center of the town instead away from it. Older towns faced the street and sidewalks which gave a walkable feel to the town. Mint Hill built them facing outward away from the sidewalk, I said nothing about the architecture of the buildings.
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Old 07-14-2015, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Asheville
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Yeah, I got that. My point is that its a relatively new, almost entirely suburban town (as opposed to Greenville and Asheville that were founded in the 18th century), that is now trying to go back and create a central core. To expect that newly created core to look like it was built in 1900 isn't realistic.
Speaking of, Mint Hill did have some old buildings that should have been kept around, they destroyed what character they had just like the rest of Charlotte. That is why Asheville and Greenville are on the top places to live in America list because they were smart and kept the older buildings. Theres some left in Mint Hill and I think they learned to keep them around. I hope anyway.
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Old 07-14-2015, 08:53 PM
 
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I'm surprised people are saying this is very common. As mentioned above I think Cornelius is one of the only places in the Charlotte area that really looks like this. I'm not 100% sure, but I think you will be able to get into the stores from the street side. It just looks like there's nothing there because there is nothing actually in the shops yet. I think I had read an article about why they did Catawba Ave in Cornelius like this saying that it was supposed to be the best way to cater to both walkability and driving. Speaking of which, OP, you keep harping on walkability in Mint Hill, yet your video was taken by car. Seems a bit contradictory...

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Speaking of, Mint Hill did have some old buildings that should have been kept around, they destroyed what character they had just like the rest of Charlotte. That is why Asheville and Greenville are on the top places to live in America list because they were smart and kept the older buildings. Theres some left in Mint Hill and I think they learned to keep them around. I hope anyway.
What buildings did Mint Hill destroy? I think they did a nice job with the Town Hall in particular, which IMO does look like it has character.



Sounds like you need to move to Davidson or something. You can get a condo/townhome there for about the price of a single-family home in Mint Hill, so may be worth looking into for ya.
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Old 07-14-2015, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Asheville
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I'm surprised people are saying this is very common. As mentioned above I think Cornelius is one of the only places in the Charlotte area that really looks like this. I'm not 100% sure, but I think you will be able to get into the stores from the street side. It just looks like there's nothing there because there is nothing actually in the shops yet. I think I had read an article about why they did Catawba Ave in Cornelius like this saying that it was supposed to be the best way to cater to both walkability and driving. Speaking of which, OP, you keep harping on walkability in Mint Hill, yet your video was taken by car. Seems a bit contradictory...



What buildings did Mint Hill destroy? I think they did a nice job with the Town Hall in particular, which IMO does look like it has character.



Sounds like you need to move to Davidson or something. You can get a condo/townhome there for about the price of a single-family home in Mint Hill, so may be worth looking into for ya.
I am not talking about that area, I agree I thought they did a nice job over there. I'm talking about the new area they just built. What happened over there? See attachment.
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