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Unfortunately even with the work of neighorhood activists things are moving very slowly regarding revitalizing the Eastland Mall area - there are simply still too many rentals in that immediate area.
Agree. Sadly, it is just a fact - when someone rents, they do not have a longterm vested interest in the area. I would have never predicted in 1975 what has happened to that region around the mall. I would love to see things improve and property values skyrocket. I hope someday we will see this.
It is certainly your right to have an opinion - I would just warn others that when listening to yours they consider you are very new to the city and might not know as much as you think you do.
BTW, I am not picking on you, I am trying to point out that you are being unnecessarily rude to others who don't agree with you. And perhaps you didn't notice we are actually in agreement about older established neighborhoods?
BULL. You consistently spew your east side misinformation.. you may not have said the entire east side is bad but you have said it about areas that are certainly NOT bad.. here is one quote
"Not sure where you heard Hickory Grove is a "better part of Charlotte" - that is certainly not true. It is in the part of east Charlotte I avoid and would certainly never live in."
BULL. It may be your opinion but its BULL and you should stop.
You must avoid just about anywhere in Charlotte if you avoid that area. The crime is very low there but my guess is you have your opinion of the people that live there.
Drive thru those neighborhoods and you will see nothing but nice clean properties with the occasional bad egg JUST LIKE THE SOUTH.. cept in the south you have the cookie cutter cheap houses where lots of people who could get mortgages got them and moved to because it was CHEAP.
The number of posts here is no indication of "expert" thats for sure.
As far as rude, its your opinion I am rude, fine. Now you've told me. I say it how it is and I wont change that to shield people.
Agree. Sadly, it is just a fact - when someone rents, they do not have a longterm vested interest in the area. I would have never predicted in 1975 what has happened to that region around the mall. I would love to see things improve and property values skyrocket. I hope someday we will see this.
Good point, but remember how popular that mall was in the 80's? Would you EVER IN A MILLION years have guessed it would be where it is now? Doubt it. It will turn around.. it may be 10 yrs but it will. It can't get too much worse that is for sure.
If the city acts even though there are rentals it will succeed. Let me tell you why:
First off, I wish I was a landlord right now. NOBODY is getting a loan that should not get one starting 4 months ago. This means rentals are going to be in demand. Demand= cost goes up. The higher the cost in general the better the tenant. IN GENERAL.
If the city does get moving on the project this will add to the higher rent SUBSTANTIALLY. Landlords will have more money to keep their rentals in good order and people with more pride in where they live will move in.
This is getting off the subject of this thread so I am done here.
BULL. You consistently spew your east side misinformation.. you may not have said the entire east side is bad but you have said it about areas that are certainly NOT bad.. here is one quote
"Not sure where you heard Hickory Grove is a "better part of Charlotte" - that is certainly not true. It is in the part of east Charlotte I avoid and would certainly never live in."
BULL. It may be your opinion but its BULL and you should stop.
You must avoid just about anywhere in Charlotte if you avoid that area. The crime is very low there but my guess is you have your opinion of the people that live there.
Drive thru those neighborhoods and you will see nothing but nice clean properties with the occasional bad egg JUST LIKE THE SOUTH.. cept in the south you have the cookie cutter cheap houses where lots of people who could get mortgages got them and moved to because it was CHEAP.
The number of posts here is no indication of "expert" thats for sure.
As far as rude, its your opinion I am rude, fine. Now you've told me. I say it how it is and I wont change that to shield people.
Eastside misinformation? I have been in Charlotte over 20 years and started out here for the first 8 years on the eastside - it is an area I know EXTREMELY well. Again, you are just making yourself look bad by continuing to insist you know SO MUCH about the area you have only just moved to.
Good point, but remember how popular that mall was in the 80's? Would you EVER IN A MILLION years have guessed it would be where it is now? Doubt it. It will turn around.. it may be 10 yrs but it will. It can't get too much worse that is for sure.
If the city acts even though there are rentals it will succeed. Let me tell you why:
First off, I wish I was a landlord right now. NOBODY is getting a loan that should not get one starting 4 months ago. This means rentals are going to be in demand. Demand= cost goes up. The higher the cost in general the better the tenant. IN GENERAL.
If the city does get moving on the project this will add to the higher rent SUBSTANTIALLY. Landlords will have more money to keep their rentals in good order and people with more pride in where they live will move in.
This is getting off the subject of this thread so I am done here.
No, discussing revitalizing areas is not off subject to this thread, and since it is my thread, I would like to discuss this some more
I think if you will do your research, you will find that in many areas around Eastland Mall, landlords have bought up homes and are now renting - for Section 8 housing.
No, discussing revitalizing areas is not off subject to this thread, and since it is my thread, I would like to discuss this some more
I think if you will do your research, you will find that in many areas around Eastland Mall, landlords have bought up homes and are now renting - for Section 8 housing.
Unfortunately, this is the bain of the eastside's existence - too much section 8 housing. I sincerely hope all the activists there are successful in turning things around so that ALL of the east side can be more desirable instead of just certain parts of it.
Unfortunately, this is the bain of the eastside's existence - too much section 8 housing. I sincerely hope all the activists there are successful in turning things around so that ALL of the east side can be more desirable instead of just certain parts of it.
Well, I felt no one was actually talking about the elephant in the room. So let's just get it out on the table. It is a dilemma b/c there is money available for landlords to buy houses and convert to Sec. 8 housing. So instead of homeowners going in and buying houses and revitalizing, I am seeing speculators buying the properties on gov't loan programs . . .and then renting out for Sec. 8. They depreciate the investments . . . the properties go up for sale . . . and the cycle begins again.
So the situation in several areas on the eastside is actually pretty complex.
I'm actually surprised that Eastland went downhill as fast as it did. It used to be a nice place to shop.
We all used to shop there - and go there just to hang out when we were younger. But Charlotte is not the only area where this has happened. Saw it happen in KCMO to a huge, very upscale mall that has now shut down and it was not half the age of Eastland. Turned into a hang out for kids w/ guns - meetups and gang activity in the parking lot, etc. It is not just here in the South that these things are happening. It is all over. If I remember correctly, some developers took over the KCMO mall I referred to and are making it into a sports complex (soccer maybe?) Investors and municipalities have to get serious about revitalization to make it work.
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