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Old 02-12-2016, 01:21 PM
 
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True, but it'd probably be a bonus for people in Gastonia who want to have dinner/drinks/see a show or game in CLT and go home without driving.
And that is why it would never happen. Who's going to pay for this and why should they?

People that want to live close to dinner/drinks/see a show or game in CLT and go home without driving should just live in Charlotte. Price/sq ft. is cheaper in Gastonia (or any suburb that depends on Charlotte) for a reason.
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Old 02-12-2016, 02:33 PM
 
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True, but it'd probably be a bonus for people in Gastonia who want to have dinner/drinks/see a show or game in CLT and go home without driving.
I absolutely agree with that. And to answer essequamvideri's question, the real reason for it would not be to facilitate nightlife enjoyment, but would be to get cars off the road (thus lowering ozone/car pollution and eliminating the need for costly new/wider roads), and allow Charlotte companies to more easily find/attract/hire talented employees.

However, the bottom line is this, unless NC has a major shift in political philosophy, demographics and voting patterns, there will be no new light of commuter rail built in this state. The general assembly has essentially put a moratorium on new rail projects, and it until there is a political change in Raleigh, we can all forget about projects like this.
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Old 02-12-2016, 04:34 PM
 
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True, but it'd probably be a bonus for people in Gastonia who want to have dinner/drinks/see a show or game in CLT and go home without driving.
Charlotte residents might want to take a train to Gastonia to go to the Schiele. Gastonia has buses. If there was reliable train service I'd bet that bus routes would pop up to Crowders Mountain & Daniel Stowe Botanical Gardens.
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:22 PM
 
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Charlotte residents might want to take a train to Gastonia to go to the Schiele. Gastonia has buses. If there was reliable train service I'd bet that bus routes would pop up to Crowders Mountain & Daniel Stowe Botanical Gardens.
Imagine if the casino happens. That line could be the busiest in Charlotte's metro system.
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Old 02-12-2016, 08:13 PM
 
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Imagine if the casino happens. That line could be the busiest in Charlotte's metro system.
I wasn't going to go there, but you're right. If it happens, the Catawbas plan to be very generous to the area. If McCrory had signed the permission they were planning to give the state a bigger cut than the Cherokee give to the state. A light rail line to Kings Mountain would be very advantageous for them. If they don't have to give money to the state, they might feel a need to run light rail from the airport to Kings Mountain. Ya never know.
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Old 02-13-2016, 12:31 AM
 
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Couple of notes.

For the alignment you're talking about, it would be better to utilize commuter rail than light rail. It would be cheaper, since the rolling stock would be compatible with the currently existing tracks. Norfolk Southern is the owner of this rail line, and they would probably request the NCDOT to build addition parallel tracks before allowing any rail on their right-of-way. This likely has to happen one day anyway, since that corridor could one day support high speed rail to Atlanta.

For the alignment mentioned in the article, the P&N line isn't really suited for any long distance traveling. Unlike the NS line, the P&N line is very meandering and winding, and top speed on the line would be very low. Also, part of the original alignment is owned by CSX between Mt. Holly and the rail yard near Brookshire. The line might be more suited in becoming a rail trail between Mt. Holly and Gastonia. However, I do know Belmont is pushing for a streetcar along parts of the P&N in their town limits. A good idea would be an interurban between Mt. Holly and Belmont, and commuters could then transfer to a future Belmont Station along a future Gastonia/Charlotte commuter line.
Thank you for this. This is very insightful.
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Old 02-13-2016, 12:32 AM
 
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Currently commuter rail is on the docket for Belmont/Mt Holly, Gastonia, Kings Mountain, Shelby, & Boiling Springs.
That's very interesting. I did not know this. I am intrigued.
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Old 02-13-2016, 12:33 AM
 
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Light/commuter rail between Charlotte and Gastonia would be great, in theory. However, the OP's supposition that Charlotte residents would use it to visit Gastonia for a night out is preposterous.
Preposterous? If downtown Gastonia were transformed into something truly unique that could not be found in Charlotte, there is nothing preposterous about the idea of people in Charlotte wanting to ride the train over there. There is a very popular ferry/train from San Francisco to Napa Valley that San Francisco locals ride every week for a day trip. San Francisco is one of the great American cities, so there's plenty there for people to do. But sometimes, even in a city like that, the locals like to get out of town and happily board that train. I used to live in the DC area. Lots of people in DC get on Metro every day and ride over to Old Town Alexandria because it's something different to do.
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Old 02-13-2016, 04:17 AM
 
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Preposterous? If downtown Gastonia were transformed into something truly unique that could not be found in Charlotte, there is nothing preposterous about the idea of people in Charlotte wanting to ride the train over there. There is a very popular ferry/train from San Francisco to Napa Valley that San Francisco locals ride every week for a day trip. San Francisco is one of the great American cities, so there's plenty there for people to do. But sometimes, even in a city like that, the locals like to get out of town and happily board that train. I used to live in the DC area. Lots of people in DC get on Metro every day and ride over to Old Town Alexandria because it's something different to do.
Um, you're comparing Gastonia to Napa Valley and Old Town Alexandria? Seriously?
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Old 02-13-2016, 11:37 AM
 
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Um, you're comparing Gastonia to Napa Valley and Old Town Alexandria? Seriously?
No, what he/she is doing is using it as an example of people travelling from a larger metro to a smaller one because it has a niche market.

If Gastonia focused on late night sidewalk cafes, or retail/restaurants... closed off a few streets and had weekend festivals or a farmers market/artist market it could work.

It would have to be something truly unique and niche but its definitely possible.
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