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Old 04-05-2016, 05:45 PM
 
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Why not move to where you are accepted? That's what I would do if I lived somewhere that didn't like me.
Well at least someone is admitting the reality of what this is about. Clearly PayPal made the right call.
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Old 04-05-2016, 05:49 PM
 
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Reed is a terrible mayor, but all of that is subjective. Reed should focus on some of his wasteful spreading with that street car no one rides. Plus the Braves left Atlanta on his watch. Lil Kasim should focus on his own city and leave North Carolina to their own business. Good to see North Carolina having a backbone to bullies.
I'd extend that sentiment to some other residents of Georgia.
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Old 04-05-2016, 06:25 PM
 
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See my previous post. The law repealed all existing anti-discrimination laws in places like Asheville, Charlotte, and Raleigh, and prevents any future laws from being passed protecting LGBT people anywhere in the state. It essentially allows any NC citizen, business, or government entity to refuse gay people from their businesses, hotels, restaurants, colleges, employment, housing etc. without question. Much like the "Whites Only" sign on many businesses in the 60s.

The bathroom issue attached to the bill is really just a cover up. It's easier to garner support if you push it as protecting people from the plethora of transsexuals trying to go into the bathroom of their identity. "Oh no, we can't let biological men, who identify as female enter the women's bathroom! We must pass a bill and put a stop to this evil!"

Meanwhile, while everyone is focused on that tiny little issue that affects probably less than 1% of the population, they slipped in a complete removal of all LGBT rights in the state, and banned any future attempts to provide those rights.
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Old 04-05-2016, 08:25 PM
 
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See my previous post. The law repealed all existing anti-discrimination laws in places like Asheville, Charlotte, and Raleigh, and prevents any future laws from being passed protecting LGBT people anywhere in the state. It essentially allows any NC citizen, business, or government entity to refuse gay people from their businesses, hotels, restaurants, colleges, employment, housing etc. without question. Much like the "Whites Only" sign on many businesses in the 60s.

The bathroom issue attached to the bill is really just a cover up. It's easier to garner support if you push it as protecting people from the plethora of transsexuals trying to go into the bathroom of their identity. "Oh no, we can't let biological men, who identify as female enter the women's bathroom! We must pass a bill and put a stop to this evil!"

Meanwhile, while everyone is focused on that tiny little issue that affects probably less than 1% of the population, they slipped in a complete removal of all LGBT rights in the state, and banned any future attempts to provide those rights.
So much for being the "New South." The NBA may back out of hosting a tournament in Charlotte, PayPal has decided against its planned expansion in NC and will be moving those 400 jobs elsewhere, American Airlines and BOA have expressed their concerns over McCrory's and the Republican legislature's actions. Half of BOA's main operations are already in San Francisco, they could decide to pack up and move the rest back to SanFran and consolidate their operations there. Same with Wells Fargo. I remember several years ago a number of high tech companies were threatening to pull out of Virginia due to some anti-LGBT legislation pending there. NC can expect the same to happen as the high tech industry has a disproportionate number of LBGT (and progressive minded) employees and would have concerns about being able to attract talent if they're located in an environment that is hostile to potential employees. Can NC afford the possible loss of so many jobs? The "old South" textile and tobacco jobs are gone, so what's the fallback? This legislation is really backwards thinking that may cost the state dearly and result in a slowdown of growth.

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Old 04-05-2016, 08:47 PM
 
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So much for being the "New South." The NBA may back out of hosting a tournament in Charlotte, PayPal has decided against its planned expansion in NC and will be moving those 400 jobs elsewhere, American Airlines and BOA have expressed their concerns over McCrory's and the Republican legislature's actions. Half of BOA's main operations are already in San Francisco, they could decide to pack up and move the rest back to SanFran and consolidate their operations there. Same with Wells Fargo. I remember several years ago a number of high tech companies were threatening to pull out of Virginia due to some anti-LGBT legislation pending there. NC can expect the same to happen as the high tech industry has a disproportionate number of LBGT (and progressive minded) employees and would have concerns about being able to attract talent if they're located in an environment that is hostile to potential employees. Can NC afford the possible loss of so many jobs? The "old South" textile and tobacco jobs are gone, so what's the fallback? This legislation is really backwards thinking that may cost the state dearly and result in a slowdown of growth.
Nobody is going to 'decide to move the rest back to SanFran'. The trend is actually to avoid hiring in San Fran due to the high cost of labor and real estate. A lot of drama queens posting in this thread.
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Old 04-05-2016, 09:07 PM
 
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Nobody is going to 'decide to move the rest back to SanFran'. The trend is actually to avoid hiring in San Fran due to the high cost of labor and real estate. A lot of drama queens posting in this thread.
In spite of the very high cost of living, San Francisco tops the list of best cities for jobs: Forbes Welcome

I recall that when BofA merged with NationsBank, there was sort of a gentlemen's agreement with Hugh McColl to keep the main headquarters in Charlotte. But that was long ago. There is nothing binding. The company can do whatever it wishes.
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Old 04-05-2016, 09:18 PM
 
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San Francisco and the Bay Area continue to boom economically, in population, and in educational attainment. It is among the elite regions of the world. Moreover, the highly sought young well-educated creative and tech class continue to flock there because they are attracted to areas with progressive culture, especially on LGBT issues. Also, the banking industry and big corporations in general have become very LGBT-friendly as large numbers of their staff and management have come out as LGBT or LGBT allies. Most major corporations have internal employee LGBT groups that have hundreds to even thousands of members and supporters. Also, having a record as LGBT friendly is a huge asset when trying to recruit Millenials, especially at Ivy League and elite schools. This issue really is the defining issue that separates the backwater from the cosmopolitan.
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Old 04-05-2016, 09:36 PM
 
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North Carolina's latest blow: Lionsgate pulls production of new show due to state's anti-LGBT law
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Old 04-05-2016, 09:39 PM
 
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San Francisco and the Bay Area continue to boom economically, in population, and in educational attainment. It is among the elite regions of the world. Moreover, the highly sought young well-educated creative and tech class continue to flock there because they are attracted to areas with progressive culture, especially on LGBT issues. Also, the banking industry and big corporations in general have become very LGBT-friendly as large numbers of their staff and management have come out as LGBT or LGBT allies. Most major corporations have internal employee LGBT groups that have hundreds to even thousands of members and supporters. Also, having a record as LGBT friendly is a huge asset when trying to recruit Millenials, especially at Ivy League and elite schools. This issue really is the defining issue that separates the backwater from the cosmopolitan.
Great post man
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Old 04-05-2016, 11:03 PM
 
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San Francisco and the Bay Area continue to boom economically, in population, and in educational attainment. It is among the elite regions of the world. Moreover, the highly sought young well-educated creative and tech class continue to flock there because they are attracted to areas with progressive culture, especially on LGBT issues. Also, the banking industry and big corporations in general have become very LGBT-friendly as large numbers of their staff and management have come out as LGBT or LGBT allies. Most major corporations have internal employee LGBT groups that have hundreds to even thousands of members and supporters. Also, having a record as LGBT friendly is a huge asset when trying to recruit Millenials, especially at Ivy League and elite schools. This issue really is the defining issue that separates the backwater from the cosmopolitan.
This is spot on. That's generally the point I was trying to make, and you said it perfectly.
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