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Originally Posted by Proud Father
Your measurements are way off and where in my post did I compare to Charlotte?
You compared to Charlotte by default, ignoring the fact that SC schools get compared to SC schools on the education websites. NC schools get ranked to NC schools on the same websites, with the exception of national rankings.
I don't find this to be true. The parent involvement in some of these higher ranking schools is very high. My children go to one of these top schools and there are so many parents involved. And I work in a school not on the list, and the parent involvement is definitely lower.
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Originally Posted by 28079
that's BS
Again , I don't know if that applies here; this is what I observed in NY.
My reasoning is thus:
The vast majority of Parents want their kids to get a good education. Yes, there are wealthy Parents who seek to use their influence within a school, yet there are a significant number of Parents that take a laissez-faire approach, because of the confidence they have in their child's school.
In many working class areas, the evidence of parental involvement becomes clear as you will see parents/guardians with their kids in the morning at bus stops, at bake sales, etc.
What I am saying is that while Parental involvement cuts across the entire socioeconomic spectrum, the expressions of Parental involvement are manifested differently. Whereas a wealthy Parent might influence his/her child's education through the clout that they posses within the community (e.g. by placing a phone call, or by donating money to school projects), a working class Parent might involve him/herself with their physical presence.
All that said, I still stand by my statement that there are Parents who take a hands off approach because of the confidence they have of their child's school system. And again, I say all of this with the caveat that this is what I observed in NY, not in NC.
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Originally Posted by LLN
The poor reputation is directed at the bloated central office with many, in fact most, that do nothing to support teachers and improve classroom instruction.
I appreciate your explanation. Looking from the outside in, it does appear that CMS has a top heavy approach. Was it always this way?
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Originally Posted by Proud Father
Your measurements are way off and where in my post did I compare to Charlotte?
That's what Google came up with. As to any comparison I thought you may have inferred, my apologies; you mentioned SC schools on a CMS thread, thus did I see a comparison that you didn't intend to make.
That's what Google came up with. As to any comparison I thought you may have inferred, my apologies; you mentioned SC schools on a CMS thread, thus did I see a comparison that you didn't intend to make.
Look at the map Google considered. Basically Fort Mill school district is from the state line to the Catawba River and over close to 521. A bit more than 4 sq miles.
CLT4 mentioned SC schools. My post was in response to that.
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CMS had 9 schools rank with a medal, making up 43% of ranked schools in the Charlotte area. CMS is 47% of public school district (non-charter) enrollment in the Charlotte metro.
UCPS had 4 schools rank with a medal, making up 19% of ranked schools in the Charlotte area. UCPS is 13% of public school district enrollment in the Charlotte metro.
Charters had 4 schools rank with a medal, making up 19% of ranked schools in the Charlotte area.
York 04 had 2 schools rank with a medal, making up 10% of ranked schools in the Charlotte area. York 04 is 4% of public school district enrollment in the Charlotte metro.
Gaston County had 1 school rank with a medal, making up 5% of ranked schools in the Charlotte area. GCPS is 10% of public school district enrollment in the Charlotte metro.
Rock Hill had 1 school rank with a medal, making up 5% of ranked schools in the Charlotte area. Rock Hill is 6% of public school district enrollment in the Charlotte metro.
Making up 20% of area public school enrollment, Clover, Mooresville, Cabarrus, and Kannapolis school districts had no ranked schools by US News.
I included Gaston County Prep in the Charter school group, as they operate independently of the schools districts. I should have clarified as GCPS had 1.
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I included Gaston County Prep in the Charter school group, as they operate independently of the schools districts. I should have clarified as GCPS had 1.
OK. I didn't notice it at first.
Just a suggestion, for clarity, when you do it next year, you might want to separate the SC schools, to avoid confusion. For example, 3 of the schools are very close in state ranking. The NC school is, by far, higher in the national rankings than the SC schools.
I like that you post this. As far as I know, it's the only well-regarded national ranking of schools.
Just a suggestion, for clarity, when you do it next year, you might want to separate the SC schools, to avoid confusion. For example, 3 of the schools are very close in state ranking. The NC school is, by far, higher in the national rankings than the SC schools.
I like that you post this. As far as I know, it's the only well-regarded national ranking of schools.
Yeah I can do that in the future. The ranking is heavy on college preparedness and AP participation rates/ pass rates. Since the AP exams are the same nationwide and a good bench mark of college prep, it gives a better read on test scores versus state testing which can vary from state to state (some states are more challenging, etc...).
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Yeah I can do that in the future. The ranking is heavy on college preparedness and AP participation rates/ pass rates. Since the AP exams are the same nationwide and a good bench mark of college prep, it gives a better read on test scores versus state testing which can vary from state to state (some states are more challenging, etc...).
The differences between the states isn't as noticeable on sites like Great Schools, but it stands out on this group, if you read the national rankings.
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, I don't know if that applies here; this is what I observed in NY.
