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Old 09-27-2016, 12:13 PM
 
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Young girl cries and scolds Charlotte City Council

Adult fears and anxieties transmitted thought their children. Be careful what say you in front of your children. Love, hatred, politics, likes and dislikes are all soaked up by those "sponges" we gave birth to and raised. It will come back to haunt us for generations.
If change is to begin, it's a two way operation. The older i get the more I doubt I'll see it in my lifetime.
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:28 PM
 
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Young girl cries and scolds Charlotte City Council

Adult fears and anxieties transmitted thought their children. Be careful what say you in front of your children. Love, hatred, politics, likes and dislikes are all soaked up by those "sponges" we gave birth to and raised. It will come back to haunt us for generations.
If change is to begin, it's a two way operation. The older i get the more I doubt I'll see it in my lifetime.

Change would require showing respect and empathy for a point of view you may not be familiar or agree with.

This child's speech was brave and authentic. Be the change you want to be by becoming involved in the world she lives in. Seeing her speech and immediately thinking "Oh wow she is a tool for a political movement and has been brainwashed, I'm going to start a thread about better parenting" is part of the problem, as it has nothing to do with the causes of pain she is highlighting. Dismissive responses to cries for help/injustice and disregard are not helpful.

The "problem" is not compartmentalized. We need to make changes to make our schools and communities more equitable in general. We all have far more in common than not. I'd like to hear more about what "change" you think is required.

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Old 09-27-2016, 12:45 PM
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We need to make changes to make our schools and communities more equitable in general. We all have far more in common than not. I'd like to hear more about what "change" you think is required.
A little more than half a century has passed, since President Johnson instituted programs that were a part of the "Great Society" he envisioned.

I have, over the past week, been dismayed at the hostilities i've seen. At the risk of sounding simplistic, the reality is that we're all a part of the human race - black, white, brown, red, yellow. I hate to see strife between races.

But decades of time have elapsed. Hundreds of millions of dollars spent. America has done more to right it's wrongs, than any other society in history.

The objective is noble. But the fixes we've applied, haven't worked.
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Old 09-27-2016, 01:56 PM
 
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Young girl cries and scolds Charlotte City Council

Adult fears and anxieties transmitted thought their children. Be careful what say you in front of your children. Love, hatred, politics, likes and dislikes are all soaked up by those "sponges" we gave birth to and raised. It will come back to haunt us for generations.
If change is to begin, it's a two way operation. The older i get the more I doubt I'll see it in my lifetime.
Total stunt. Used kids to leverage their guilt- inducing innocence, and the City Council got to look compassionate by oohing and ahhing over her tears. Over it.
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Old 09-27-2016, 02:25 PM
 
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Change would require showing respect and empathy for a point of view you may not be familiar or agree with.

This child's speech was brave and authentic. Be the change you want to be by becoming involved in the world she lives in. Seeing her speech and immediately thinking "Oh wow she is a tool for a political movement and has been brainwashed, I'm going to start a thread about better parenting" is part of the problem, as it has nothing to do with the causes of pain she is highlighting. Dismissive responses to cries for help/injustice and disregard are not helpful.

The "problem" is not compartmentalized. We need to make changes to make our schools and communities more equitable in general. We all have far more in common than not. I'd like to hear more about what "change" you think is required.
If we all keep dredging up the past we make it difficult to honestly face the future. Trust begins in a moment in time.
Memory is a good and bad thing.

Change is far to elaborate for me to discuss here. Too much room for misinterpretation because I might not be wise enough to expound upon ideas, thoughts, morals, etc.

Children are our compasses to the future, parents should overcome their fears and prejudices so as not to give them false "Norths".

I have said things in front of my own children that I dearly regret now. I'm sure we've all been there. I knew what I meant, others listening to me might have known what I meant, but the child processes based on their experience to date... sometimes it results in pure, literate conclusions.

coffee, lunch, or maybe a week long retreat might help our understanding.... lol!

FYI I've spend a lifetime working with and around children in a career setting, over half of it in a city poverty environment that would make you have night sweats worrying about their welfare.
Certainly no criteria for "preaching" on this forum, but I feel I've got a handle on what went on at council the other night after listening to it on the Public channel.
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Old 09-27-2016, 02:43 PM
 
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Using children as a political prop is child abuse. The city council, who enabled this abuse should be ashamed.
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Old 09-27-2016, 02:59 PM
 
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If we all keep dredging up the past we make it difficult to honestly face the future. Trust begins in a moment in time.
Memory is a good and bad thing.

Change is far to elaborate for me to discuss here. Too much room for misinterpretation because I might not be wise enough to expound upon ideas, thoughts, morals, etc.

Children are our compasses to the future, parents should overcome their fears and prejudices so as not to give them false "Norths".

I have said things in front of my own children that I dearly regret now. I'm sure we've all been there. I knew what I meant, others listening to me might have known what I meant, but the child processes based on their experience to date... sometimes it results in pure, literate conclusions.

coffee, lunch, or maybe a week long retreat might help our understanding.... lol!

FYI I've spend a lifetime working with and around children in a career setting, over half of it in a city poverty environment that would make you have night sweats worrying about their welfare.
Certainly no criteria for "preaching" on this forum, but I feel I've got a handle on what went on at council the other night after listening to it on the Public channel.

Thanks for sharing. Appreciate the humility as I certainly don't have all the answers as well. I'm sure it's not going to be solved on a city data forum for sure.

I'm stepping into parenthood for the first time in a few weeks and understand the responsibility and aspiration you speak of to raise open minded, accepting adults with the qualities we hope for our society.

I took great pride attending and teaching in schools in Charlotte as a minority (I am a white guy). It was really rewarding to break down some stereotypes for my peers in school and students in the classroom, but it seems the work is constant. One of the biggest changes was shaping my understanding of what it's like to grow up poor/black in Charlotte. Some of the friendships gained are lifelong. I would not have been able to gain anything near the perspective/education at a less diverse school. I'm thankful for that and wish the merits were seen as advantages for other affluent whites, as they have extreme power and a real civic responsibility to shape our community into a more equitable one.

While some may view the little girl's testimony as a charade, and staged emotional appeal, I would argue that if the result is greater empathy and a chance at improved perspective, it is a moot point. We live in a time of extreme "selling", with marketing research that can target demographics and predict reactions with greater certainty, some of the more divisive media outlets that benefit from attention will edit stories and twist narratives to fit agendas. The headlines and video edits of protests prove that. One article highlight Mr. Scott with his hands by his side backing away while another will emphasize his felon status and slow count the number of times the police instructed him to drop the gun. The public and progress is sacrificed when journalism is polarized beyond reconciliation - the media fitting each agenda instead of striving for unbiased truth.

What we need is more listening/consideration "I hear your pain and let's talk about solutions" vs. "you are the problem" to reach actions. Ironically, both communities are set on playing the victimization card and highlighting/sensationalizing problems/pointing fingers that it makes it difficult to work towards solutions. Charlotte's most vulnerable population is at a powder keg status for many reasons.

I like the statement of commitment from this group of leaders/citizens. I'm going to start a thread on it.

A Statement of Commitment - OpportunityCharMeck

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Old 09-27-2016, 06:59 PM
 
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A young child is in tears over a reality that scares and upsets her (if not her, other boys and girls in her community) yet she's being dismissed as a plant.
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Old 09-27-2016, 07:21 PM
 
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A young child is in tears over a reality that scares and upsets her (if not her, other boys and girls in her community) yet she's being dismissed as a plant.
You've taken a monstrous leap without a safety net..
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Old 09-27-2016, 07:33 PM
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If we all keep dredging up the past we make it difficult to honestly face the future. Trust begins in a moment in time.

Memory is a good and bad thing.
Very well stated, and very true.
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