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Old 02-09-2017, 11:47 AM
 
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All poorly executed, the last being the worst. Now the demographer has spilled the beans.
Opinions are always interesting, especially considering the opining person's perspective. From all the information I can find, during past reassignments the demographer only spoke once of his opinion. He was never asked to construct a plan, he never voluntarily gave his opinion of the plan(s). The one time he shared his opinion is with UCPS staff and that opinion has been widely circulated among those interested and is believed or not believed depending upon your position.

The other plans over the past 10 or 11 years, with only two exceptions dealt with new school openings. The only one that was received poorly was the initial Cuthbertson opening. UCPS staff wanted to open the cluster with much less occupancy than eventually voted upon. (They were well aware of the growth that was encroaching upon that cluster.) Pressure from Commissioners lead to increasing the originally planned population of the schools on opening day. History shows this to be a poor decision based on the fact that overcrowding occurred sooner, followed by capping and reassignment back to original schools in many cases.

New school placement across the county over the past 12 years has been poorly done based on ideal locations. There are various factors that influenced their placement. Free land, available land, partial donations, cost.

Marvin, Antioch, Stallings, all in locations not ideal because of county/state lines being so close and limiting the student population base surrounding them on at least one side.

It is the curse of a system that has been around for decades and then begins to grow almost uncontrollably. New schools must be built with consideration to older school locations and populations centers. Union County was forced into reactionary mode for years. Proactive mode can only be achieved with a great crystal ball and/or a wealthy reserve in the tax base.

Thanks for sharing opinions and interesting perspectives.
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Old 02-10-2017, 08:16 AM
 
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It is a necessary evil for a county wide school system.
I agree with you on that point. You either have to build or redistrict.
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Old 02-10-2017, 08:17 AM
 
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All poorly executed, the last being the worst. Now the demographer has spilled the beans.
Someone will always think a redistricting is poorly executed, as it will impact them.
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Old 02-10-2017, 08:56 AM
 
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Someone will always think a redistricting is poorly executed, as it will impact them.
We were not moved but my children's high school is now bursting at the seams thanks to the poorly executed redistricting. Don't even get me started on traffic. Our commute time has now tripled.
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Old 02-10-2017, 08:59 AM
 
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He was never asked to construct a plan.
That was the problem. He was never asked to construct a plan. According to your history lesson, you admit the boards of the past made mistakes but the last board didn't ask the professional for advice. Bad mistake.
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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That was the problem. He was never asked to construct a plan. According to your history lesson, you admit the boards of the past made mistakes but the last board didn't ask the professional for advice. Bad mistake.
Gonna be a wild ride if he pushes lots of students out of Porter Ridge and SunValley to Monroe. Forecast out 10 years and the population booms will continue happening on the county borders, thus forcing the bodies towards the center of the county. Hold on tight!

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Guess how that's going to work out.
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:49 AM
 
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Gonna be a wild ride if he pushes lots of students out of Porter Ridge and SunValley to Monroe. Forecast out 10 years and the population booms will continue happening on the county borders, thus forcing the bodies towards the center of the county. Hold on tight!

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school 2


Guess how that's going to work out.
That makes no sense. According to McKibben, home sales are heaviest in Monroe. The western perimeter of the county is empty nesting.
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:17 AM
 
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That was the problem. He was never asked to construct a plan. According to your history lesson, you admit the boards of the past made mistakes but the last board didn't ask the professional for advice. Bad mistake.

Again, your point of view or perspective. McKibben was asked about the current plan. He was 95% in approval of the plan...... his words. He would have moved less at Marvin and more elsewhere.
Past board did have professional advice. Mistake is in the eye of the beholder.

Sun Valley has, for years, been short changed. Because of more pressing needs, priorities. Mr. Sides came on board and touted a new Sun Valley, even did a news report from Sun Valley stating it's needs. Mr. Sides has now done an about face on the need for a new Sun Valley. Instead he voted to provide upgrades in the several million dollar range (see bond package on UCPS website). I think Mr. Sides fell into the same pattern as previous board members. Pressing needs became greater elsewhere so SV was pushed back or changed.

It will be interesting to see if these bond funds are diverted to other projects. (High school D [?] slated for property near Hemby Bridge school has been rumored to be back on the front burner. If so, will SV upgrades receive another setback??

All speculation at this point and unless we sit on senior staff or BOE.
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Old 02-10-2017, 11:07 AM
 
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Again, your point of view or perspective. McKibben was asked about the current plan. He was 95% in approval of the plan...... his words. He would have moved less at Marvin and more elsewhere.
Past board did have professional advice. Mistake is in the eye of the beholder.

Sun Valley has, for years, been short changed. Because of more pressing needs, priorities. Mr. Sides came on board and touted a new Sun Valley, even did a news report from Sun Valley stating it's needs. Mr. Sides has now done an about face on the need for a new Sun Valley. Instead he voted to provide upgrades in the several million dollar range (see bond package on UCPS website). I think Mr. Sides fell into the same pattern as previous board members. Pressing needs became greater elsewhere so SV was pushed back or changed.

It will be interesting to see if these bond funds are diverted to other projects. (High school D [?] slated for property near Hemby Bridge school has been rumored to be back on the front burner. If so, will SV upgrades receive another setback??

All speculation at this point and unless we sit on senior staff or BOE.
You are correct, Sun Valley has always been short changed and continues to be short changed. We have have always been at the bottom of the pecking order. At least we are finally getting much needed renovations and upgrades. Can't say Sides is any better or worse than the others who came before him in our district.
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Old 02-10-2017, 11:10 AM
 
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Sun Valley has, for years, been short changed.
Quite a few board members pushed for the new Sun Valley. They even came up with the joint campus for SV and the Technology Center. Most of the current board was against it. Maybe they will just redistrict their kids out of SV and not have to worry about it (i.e. Wesley Oaks).
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