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Old 02-10-2017, 01:12 PM
 
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I believe it was a take it or leave it from the county. Some members of the county just want kids moved to where there are open seats.
I thought it was about not wanting to raise taxes to pay for a $230 million bond. The bond has expansions for 6 schools.
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Old 02-10-2017, 01:18 PM
 
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There are only four returning members on the current BOE. How could they have voted it down? The bond was voted on before they were elected.
Yep, I misspoke. It was the BOE prior to the new members joining. sorry, it all begins to run together.
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Old 02-10-2017, 01:22 PM
 
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I thought it was about not wanting to raise taxes to pay for a $230 million bond. The bond has expansions for 6 schools.
Who knows for sure really. What goes on behind closed doors and in 1 on 1 conversations and deal making. I do remember Mr. Rushing saying a couple times that there were open seats in the county that could be used, but then I believe it was Mr. Stewart who said that would trigger more movement. But it all does run together.
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Old 02-10-2017, 01:27 PM
 
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I thought it was about not wanting to raise taxes to pay for a $230 million bond. The bond has expansions for 6 schools.
Back before the last student reassignment, the BOE talked about building new schools to handle the growth across the Northeast to North to Northwest crescent. (as evident by the purchase of cluster D over by Hemby Bridge) The UCPS staff and BOE looked at the empty seats in the county clusters, compared it to McKibben's yearly forecast updates and took into account the commissioners reluctance to increase an already large bond debt, (reference Mr. Rushing's comments about empty seating in some clusters) hence the long overdue reassignments and cluster shifts.
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Old 02-10-2017, 02:25 PM
 
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What data are you using to come to this conclusion? Please share, I would like to look at the numbers. Thank you
Look at a map. You can literally draw a straight line through PRHS, SVHS, WHS, and MRHS. No joke, try it. CHS isn't too far off either. That line runs about 4 miles parallel to the county line. Anything north of that line has to go southeast to get to a school, and that's a lot of people. Empty nesters? Some, but also a lot of new construction and homes flipping with younger kids. Add in Millbridge/Waxhaw in with the SC border and it's pushing the school boundaries further east.
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Old 02-10-2017, 02:40 PM
 
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Look at a map. You can literally draw a straight line through PRHS, SVHS, WHS, and MRHS. No joke, try it. CHS isn't too far off either. That line runs about 4 miles parallel to the county line. Anything north of that line has to go southeast to get to a school, and that's a lot of people. Empty nesters? Some, but also a lot of new construction and homes flipping with younger kids. Add in Millbridge/Waxhaw in with the SC border and it's pushing the school boundaries further east.
Why in the world would we push boundaries East when we have elementary schools in the Marvin Ridge, Sun Valley, and Porter Ridge clusters operating at around 70% of capacity cluster-wide? Porter Ridge Elementary is actually running around 59% of capacity.

Based on UCPS data, the clusters have the following elementary capacity utilizations:

Monroe 83.97%
Forest Hills 81.83%
Piedmont 90.67%
Porter Ridge 72.84%
Sun Valley 73.13%
Weddington 93.66%
Marvin 71.77%
Cuthbertson 101.62%
Parkwood 85.05%


That's if you rely on the last capacity numbers posted for the public.
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Old 02-10-2017, 02:48 PM
 
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Why in the world would we do push boundaries East when we have elementary schools in the Marvin Ridge, Sun Valley, and Porter Ridge clusters operating at around 70% of capacity cluster-wide? Porter Ridge Elementary is actually running around 59% of capacity.

That's if you rely on the last capacity numbers posted for the public. http://www.ucps.k12.nc.us/site/handl...Sq%20Ft%20.pdf
Do you have current enrollment numbers? Are they posted online?
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Old 02-10-2017, 03:20 PM
 
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Why in the world would we push boundaries East when we have elementary schools in the Marvin Ridge, Sun Valley, and Porter Ridge clusters operating at around 70% of capacity cluster-wide? Porter Ridge Elementary is actually running around 59% of capacity.

Based on UCPS data, the clusters have the following elementary capacity utilizations:

Monroe 83.97%
Forest Hills 81.83%
Piedmont 90.67%
Porter Ridge 72.84%
Sun Valley 73.13%
Weddington 93.66%
Marvin 71.77%
Cuthbertson 101.62%
Parkwood 85.05%


That's if you rely on the last capacity numbers posted for the public. http://www.ucps.k12.nc.us/site/handl...Sq%20Ft%20.pdf
Better if I say the boundaries are currently pushed east and what happened during the last move. Too many folks don't understand that the kids north of that PRHS-MRHS line have to slot into the schools. A kid 4 miles north, could trump a kid 2 miles south if at capacity even if the southern student is closer.

Agree on the capacity numbers at the elementary schools, but that puts into question the whole cluster model. PR Middle is pushing capacity now and will overflow in 2021. Cutty Middle will fill up in 3-4 years, and PRHS is jammed up now as it is. Take the capacity numbers for HS in your link. The countywide HS capacity is 12300. We have about 12,000 HS students right now as it is. Do they break up the cluster concept? That would certainly not feel like neighborhood schools anymore.
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Old 02-10-2017, 03:22 PM
 
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Do you have current enrollment numbers? Are they posted online?
Current Year:
http://www.ucps.k12.nc.us/cms/lib8/N...nth%202016.pdf

Historical:
District Profile / Enrollment & Ethnicity Information
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Old 02-10-2017, 03:31 PM
 
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Using the data in those previous links:

School - Capacity - Enrollment

High Schools
CHS - 1600 - 1546
FHS - 1275 - 1025
MHS - 1000 - 1190
PWHS - 1235 - 1160
PHS - 1330 - 1381
PRHS - 1400 - 1748
SVHS - 1460 - 1453
WHS - 1400 - 1362
MRHS - 1600 - 1662

Middle Schools
CMS - 1200 - 1235
EUMS - 1000 - 890
MMS - 1000 - 946
PWMS - 1000 - 1000
PMS - 1000 - 1041
PRMS - 1200 -1347
SVMS - 1300 - 1322
WMS - 1000 - 1013
MRMS - 1200 - 1188
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