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Old 02-15-2017, 08:21 AM
 
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Nostalgia for northeast and Midwest culture and a lack of respect for the moisture trapping qualities of Southeastern red clay and the costs of removing it.
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Old 02-15-2017, 09:09 AM
 
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Nostalgia for northeast and Midwest culture and a lack of respect for the moisture trapping qualities of Southeastern red clay and the costs of removing it.
We rented a house in VA that had a true basement. We didn't have any problems with the basement in the time we lived there. The basement was the only part of the house we didn't have any issues with and we even got over a foot of snow our first couple of months.
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Old 02-15-2017, 12:20 PM
 
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We rented a house in VA that had a true basement. We didn't have any problems with the basement in the time we lived there. The basement was the only part of the house we didn't have any issues with and we even got over a foot of snow our first couple of months.
I love basements. They aren't built as often in the Carolinas because of the reasons I shared. Glad you didn't have any issues.
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Old 02-15-2017, 01:46 PM
 
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We rented a house in VA that had a true basement. We didn't have any problems with the basement in the time we lived there. The basement was the only part of the house we didn't have any issues with and we even got over a foot of snow our first couple of months.
Another reason houses don't have basements is related to infrastructure. Sewer pipes are buried only a couple of feet deep here. When you don't have a deep-in-the-ground frost line, you don't have to bury pipes that deeply. My old house in NJ had a typical basement with casement windows and the hot water heater, furnace and washer/dryer and sink located there. The sewer pipe was under the basement floor at a depth of 10 feet or so! With a basement like that here, waste water would have to be "pumped up" to meet the sewer lines. There's a reason houses are a lot cheaper here - and infrastructure that is much less robust, is one of the reasons why! Just the clay soil alone is not why most of NC lacks basements. It's very temperature dependent. If you can get away with sewer lines that are 2 feet deep instead of 10 feet deep, that's what will become the standard!
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Old 02-15-2017, 02:06 PM
 
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I think it's safe to say we all prefer the house that backs to the woods (thus the premium on the lot). So, that's why the house you saw with no backyard was able to fit in your budget. Marvin is going to be next to impossible on your budget with a basement. Weddington won't be much better. Maybe look at Cavaillon by CalAtlantic on 12 Mile Creek - not sure if basement is possible there. Cuthbertson is your best bet and you're probably on the right track with those 2 communities. I'd just be careful with Lennar North of Cuthbertson Rd because they are currently zoned to Waxhaw Elementary, which isn't in the Cuthbertson cluster. They will go to CMS and CHS, though. On the subject of schools, there is a student realignment kicking off that will occur in the Fall of 2018. You'll want to keep this in mind when shopping on the outskirts of any cluster - it likely won't be an issue for either Lawson or Brookmead based on location, but there is no guarantee. Talk to your agent about this. Some additional Cuthbertson options off the top of my head are Milbridge, Cureton, and Barrington - all will have very limited basement options, but worth at least looking into them.

I agree that resale will pick up in the Spring, so it might be worth waiting to see what hits the market. Many of us rented our 1st year while we shopped for the purchase - it was one of the best decisions for me. This leaves you flexibility and less pressure while you shop. The timing may also work out that the new school boundaries will be set before you sign a contract to build (or buy resale).

Thanks for letting me know about CalAtlantic and Millbridge, those are two viable options that weren't on my list so far. Millbridge in particular looks interesting.
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Old 02-15-2017, 02:29 PM
 
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Thanks for the comments. Basement is primarily for home office, man cave, and movie room purposes. Kids would have a playroom on the second floor.

I might be wrong on this, but at least from what I've seen, despite increased lot premiums and construction costs, it's cheaper to add extra rooms and square footage via a basement than through additional above ground rooms. So far, I've seen a few options for a basement house between 4500-6000 sq ft for less than $500k. I have yet to see the same square feet and number of rooms (not just bigger rooms) at a similar price point. If someone knows of 5000 sq ft houses (with playroom, rec room, movie room) for less than $500k I'm all ears
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Old 02-15-2017, 09:44 PM
 
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Thanks for the comments. Basement is primarily for home office, man cave, and movie room purposes. Kids would have a playroom on the second floor.

I might be wrong on this, but at least from what I've seen, despite increased lot premiums and construction costs, it's cheaper to add extra rooms and square footage via a basement than through additional above ground rooms. So far, I've seen a few options for a basement house between 4500-6000 sq ft for less than $500k. I have yet to see the same square feet and number of rooms (not just bigger rooms) at a similar price point. If someone knows of 5000 sq ft houses (with playroom, rec room, movie room) for less than $500k I'm all ears
And the basements you refer to are finished? Seems like a good deal for that much space if you're still talking about the schools you mentioned in the OP.

Actually I take that back (sorry as I mentioned not extremely familiar with that area, just like looking up houses), I guess doing a quick search there may be a few options with basements. I see the resale in Millbridge mentioned above--looks like a pretty good man cave there. Also a resale in Providence Grove for only $415K, then a bunch of new construction listings (some may be completed) in a neighborhood called Anklin Forest. Although they tend to be $499 so likely would go up with options.

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Old 02-16-2017, 08:52 AM
 
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Yeah, the providence grove resale looks like a good deal but it wasn't on our radar when we were visiting the area last weekend. Visited the houses at Anklin Forest and they are huge and beautiful, with finished basements, and just under $500k. However, they have no yard given the size of house, size of lot, and slope of lot.

Like I said, have founds a few options so far, just trying to turn over every rock. It seems like every day I find a new builder with basement lots.
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Old 02-16-2017, 05:16 PM
 
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Nostalgia for northeast and Midwest culture and a lack of respect for the moisture trapping qualities of Southeastern red clay and the costs of removing it.
We have a finished basement and have had no issues whatsoever with moisture. We do live on a slope though, if that makes a difference.

And we live in the area where the OP is looking, but we don't live in a neighborhood with an HOA.
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Old 02-16-2017, 08:21 PM
 
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Sorry for confusion. When I wrote respect
for moisture retaining quality of red clay and costs of removing it I meant the costs of removing the clay - not the moisture. My mistake. My point is that it is much cheaper to build on a slab.
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