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View Poll Results: Would you say that Charlotte has:
Yes, Charlotte Has Enough Police Officers. 7 36.84%
No, Charlotte Needs A Dozen (or so) More Police Officers. 2 10.53%
No, Charlotte Needs A Hundred New Officers. 10 52.63%
Voters: 19. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-20-2017, 09:14 PM
 
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if it was so great in NYC why so many of them are moving here (and want to bring what was "good" there)???
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Old 04-20-2017, 09:41 PM
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if it was so great in NYC why so many of them are moving here (and want to bring what was "good" there)???
This doesn't refute any of the points that I made.

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Most of what I have to say about Charlotte is very positive. That doesn't mean that the City doesn't have room for improvement in a few areas.
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:15 AM
 
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Yes, I would pay for them.

I am not being snarky in my reply, but the addition of 100 officers would cost what? Half a million dollars?

Could the City not absorb the cost?
Yes, that sounds about right...if police made $5,000 a year. Try more like $5 million a year, just for salaries and benefits. Then you've got buy uniforms, guns, cars, have office space for them, etc.
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Old 04-21-2017, 11:07 AM
 
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Yes, that sounds about right...if police made $5,000 a year. Try more like $5 million a year, just for salaries and benefits. Then you've got buy uniforms, guns, cars, have office space for them, etc.
His proposition it is more like 50 millions extra - when including the government infrastructure associated with the extra 100 officers jobs.

NDL speaks like a true democrat/socialist, math and business sense does not matter when it comes to our taxes...government should have no spending limit of our money...
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Old 04-21-2017, 11:23 AM
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Yes, that sounds about right...if police made $5,000 a year. Try more like $5 million a year, just for salaries and benefits. Then you've got buy uniforms, guns, cars, have office space for them, etc.
Shame on me . I was distracted when I wrote (calculated) that...

I do appreciate your being gracious in correcting me
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Old 04-21-2017, 11:29 AM
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NDL speaks like a true democrat/socialist, math and business sense does not matter when it comes to our taxes...government should have no spending limit of our money...
Can you kindly answer my arguments without name calling?
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Old 04-21-2017, 01:00 PM
 
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His proposition it is more like 50 millions extra - when including the government infrastructure associated with the extra 100 officers jobs.

NDL speaks like a true democrat/socialist, math and business sense does not matter when it comes to our taxes...government should have no spending limit of our money...
Democrat and Socialist are not the same thing.
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Old 04-21-2017, 02:29 PM
 
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Here in Charlotte, after training, equipment issue, police unit etc etc, 1st year salary, it costs on the average of close to 110,000 for each officer. Even more if they come with a degree or are lateral hires.
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:21 PM
 
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Please stop using NYC crime stats from the 80's and 90's. Pretty much every major city saw a dramatic decrease in crime at the time NYC saw their stats drop. It wasnt Guiliani. It was Roe vs Wade.

Also remember when cops went on "strike" in NYC when a cop was killed and they turned their backs on the Mayor a few years ago there was no increase in crime like everyone predicted.

More cops doesnt necessarily mean there will be less crime.

From what I have heard Uptown Charlotte was much worse in the late 70's and 80's.

The last thing we need is Charlotte to have an NYPD type presence.
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:45 PM
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Please stop using NYC crime stats from the 80's and 90's. Pretty much every major city saw a dramatic decrease in crime at the time NYC saw their stats drop. It wasnt Guiliani. It was Roe vs Wade.

Also remember when cops went on "strike" in NYC when a cop was killed and they turned their backs on the Mayor a few years ago there was no increase in crime like everyone predicted.

More cops doesnt necessarily mean there will be less crime.

From what I have heard Uptown Charlotte was much worse in the late 70's and 80's.

The last thing we need is Charlotte to have an NYPD type presence.
I agree with you in not wanting an NYPD type presence. The sole reason for the articles is to show the correlation between an increase in police presence and reduction in crime.

Also contained within the articles is the argument that people "feel" safer with an increase police presence, even if the reduction in crime is not dramatic.

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My Wife was involved in an auto accident the other day. Thankfully, no one was hurt. Because no one was hurt, and because they were a little short staffed (apparently there had been several accidents), the dispatcher asked if my Wife would go to the station to have a police report taken.

When she got to the station, the doors were locked. She didn't see anyone around. All in all, CMPD took care of the situation, and in a professional way, but it made me think...

This is going to come across as arrogant, and it's not meant to be, but perhaps I need to adjust my expectations. Perhaps I need to realize that I am in a new City, that has a different way of handling things .
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