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Old 10-21-2017, 04:55 PM
 
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I've long thought there's a lot of potential there for a vibrant and interesting place. Think of restaurants, bars, artisan shops, anything unique. I hope whatever progress is being made continues going forward.


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Old 10-21-2017, 05:20 PM
 
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I wouldn't mind renting an office there in town. This would be a short drive and probably reasonable cost. The old buildings can make great office space in a setting that's not completely corporate.
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Old 10-21-2017, 06:22 PM
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I've long thought there's a lot of potential there for a vibrant and interesting place. Think of restaurants, bars, artisan shops, anything unique. I hope whatever progress is being made continues going forward.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE9-5u8_mFU
There's a great deal of potential for sure, and the west end of Gastonia could well benefit from an influx of cash. On the other hand, gentrification fixes nothing; it only shuffles poverty from one area to another. Instead of platitudes, I would like to see real policies (drafted and implemented) that make real and significant changes in people's lives.
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Old 10-22-2017, 03:22 PM
 
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I've long thought there's a lot of potential there for a vibrant and interesting place. Think of restaurants, bars, artisan shops, anything unique. I hope whatever progress is being made continues going forward.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE9-5u8_mFU
There's a lot of potential & most don't have a clue that there's a nice little park behind the buildings on the south side of Main St & the east side of South St.
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Old 10-23-2017, 02:09 PM
 
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There's a lot of potential & most don't have a clue that there's a nice little park behind the buildings on the south side of Main St & the east side of South St.

I did not know about that park. My dream is that the area develop into a fun social place with restaurants, bars, cafes, coffees shops, art galleries, craft shops, antique stores, bookstores, and quirky shops -- sort of like downtown Asheville -- and have a Lynx train extend to DT Gastonia, with a stop at a nice urban river park along the way between there and DT Charlotte. A certain someone here attacked me for this idea a year or two ago for reasons I don't understand. But now I see that Gastonia is making some progress in that direction, and there's also now a new development in the works along the Catawba River (the River District), with a planned urban park similar to what I had in mind. And they are planning to extend a Lynx line to the River District. So things are moving in the direction of what I was hoping for. The only remaining question for me is whether the Lynx line would ever extend from the River District into DT Gastonia.

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Old 10-23-2017, 05:44 PM
 
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I did not know about that park. My dream is that the area develop into a fun social place with restaurants, bars, cafes, coffees shops, art galleries, craft shops, antique stores, bookstores, and quirky shops -- sort of like downtown Asheville -- and have a Lynx train extend to DT Gastonia, with a stop at a nice urban river park along the way between there and DT Charlotte. A certain someone here attacked me for this idea a year or two ago for reasons I don't understand. But now I see that Gastonia is making some progress in that direction, and there's also now a new development in the works along the Catawba River (the River District), with a planned urban park similar to what I had in mind. And they are planning to extend a Lynx line to the River District. So things are moving in the direction of what I was hoping for. The only remaining question for me is whether the Lynx line would ever extend from the River District into DT Gastonia.
Gastonia officials have been irate for years over the way that CATS treated them years ago, telling them that if they wanted light rail that they could pay for the whole way to Uptown.

Gastonia has been working on the whole downtown/West Franklin situation. The Loray Mill had to be first. Now, hopefully, the ballpark/entertainment district happens.

The approval of the casino at exit 5 would speed everything up to warp speed in west Gastonia & downtown Gastonia, as well as Kings Mountain. It is what it is.
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Old 10-23-2017, 05:52 PM
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I did not know about that park. My dream is that the area develop into a fun social place with restaurants, bars, cafes, coffees shops, art galleries, craft shops, antique stores, bookstores, and quirky shops -- sort of like downtown Asheville -- and have a Lynx train extend to DT Gastonia, with a stop at a nice urban river park along the way between there and DT Charlotte. A certain someone here attacked me for this idea a year or two ago for reasons I don't understand. But now I see that Gastonia is making some progress in that direction, and there's also now a new development in the works along the Catawba River (the River District), with a planned urban park similar to what I had in mind. And they are planning to extend a Lynx line to the River District. So things are moving in the direction of what I was hoping for. The only remaining question for me is whether the Lynx line would ever extend from the River District into DT Gastonia.
You envision something like the destination that downtown Charlotte should have been.

Belmont is a nice little town, but it's getting a little big for it's britches. Likewise, the stores and shops in Belmont are of little use to me.

One of my favorite "downtowns" is Huntington, NY - a pedestrian friendly destination with a wide range of restaurants - in both cuisene's and prices; neat little shops, and one of my favorite (and most useful) bookstores. The downtown Gastonia that you envision, would be a "go to" destination like Huntington.

It's a nice dream, that I hope comes to pass. I don't know what the vacancy rate of Loray Mill's is, but attracting residents/density is a necessity for building downtown Gastonia.
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Old 10-23-2017, 08:14 PM
 
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You envision something like the destination that downtown Charlotte should have been.
I totally agree with that statement. That's exactly why I think they need to look to Gastonia now. I was living in Charlotte when the Hotel Charlotte was demolished -- one of the last significant historic structures downtown. It was just heartbreaking. That happened at the end of a period of a couple decades that started in the '60s when powers that be in Charlotte decided to raze complete neighborhoods in downtown Charlotte. That decision left, for many, many years, a vast landscape of parking lots and vacant lots in the middle of the city. And along the main street, Tryon St., old historic buildings were torn down to make way skyscrapers. Where I live now, there is a sacred zone of historic buildings in the very center of the city that cannot be touched. The skyscrapers have been built on surrounding blocks, and extend out from those surrounding blocks, but in that sacred historic core those charming historic structures have been left untouched and are now home to scores of bustling businesses: a wide variety of restaurants, bars, music, shops, etc. The streets are crowded there every day and night of the week. This is what should have been done in Charlotte. But as it wasn't, so the next best thing would be to turn Gastonia's large downtown into such a destination.

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Belmont is a nice little town, but it's getting a little big for it's britches. Likewise, the stores and shops in Belmont are of little use to me.
I haven't spent much time in Belmont, but drove through there a couple years ago and I thought it had a lot of charm. But that downtown is not big enough to be the kind of entertainment venue that Gastonia could be.

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One of my favorite "downtowns" is Huntington, NY - a pedestrian friendly destination with a wide range of restaurants - in both cuisene's and prices; neat little shops, and one of my favorite (and most useful) bookstores. The downtown Gastonia that you envision, would be a "go to" destination like Huntington.
I've never been to Huntington, NY, but you've just inspired me to look at some pictures of their downtown and, yes, I love it!

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It's a nice dream, that I hope comes to pass. I don't know what the vacancy rate of Loray Mill's is, but attracting residents/density is a necessity for building downtown Gastonia.
An extension of the Lynx line would help with that. I'm going to keep dreaming.

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Gastonia officials have been irate for years over the way that CATS treated them years ago, telling them that if they wanted light rail that they could pay for the whole way to Uptown.
That's so unfortunate. It would be mutually beneficial to have such a line. Why can't these jurisdictions cooperate with one another? The DC Metro system not only goes out into different cities and counties, but different states! Besides DC, it goes into three city/county jurisdictions in Virginia, and two counties in Maryland. Charlotte getting together with Gastonia shouldn't be that hard.

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Gastonia has been working on the whole downtown/West Franklin situation. The Loray Mill had to be first. Now, hopefully, the ballpark/entertainment district happens.

The approval of the casino at exit 5 would speed everything up to warp speed in west Gastonia & downtown Gastonia, as well as Kings Mountain. It is what it is.
If that's true, then bring on the casino!
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Old 10-23-2017, 08:46 PM
 
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I totally agree with that statement. That's exactly why I think they need to look to Gastonia now. I was living in Charlotte when the Hotel Charlotte was demolished -- one of the last significant historic structures downtown. It was just heartbreaking. That happened at the end of a period of a couple decades that started in the '60s when powers that be in Charlotte decided to raze complete neighborhoods in downtown Charlotte. That decision left, for many, many years, a vast landscape of parking lots and vacant lots in the middle of the city. And along the main street, Tryon St., old historic buildings were torn down to make way skyscrapers. Where I live now, there is a sacred zone of historic buildings in the very center of the city that cannot be touched. The skyscrapers have been built on surrounding blocks, and extend out from those surrounding blocks, but in that sacred historic core those charming historic structures have been left untouched and are now home to scores of bustling businesses: a wide variety of restaurants, bars, music, shops, etc. The streets are crowded there every day and night of the week. This is what should have been done in Charlotte. But as it wasn't, so the next best thing would be to turn Gastonia's large downtown into such a destination.



I haven't spent much time in Belmont, but drove through there a couple years ago and I thought it had a lot of charm. But that downtown is not big enough to be the kind of entertainment venue that Gastonia could be.



I've never been to Huntington, NY, but you've just inspired me to look at some pictures of their downtown and, yes, I love it!



An extension of the Lynx line would help with that. I'm going to keep dreaming.



That's so unfortunate. It would be mutually beneficial to have such a line. Why can't these jurisdictions cooperate with one another? The DC Metro system not only goes out into different cities and counties, but different states! Besides DC, it goes into three city/county jurisdictions in Virginia, and two counties in Maryland. Charlotte getting together with Gastonia shouldn't be that hard.



If that's true, then bring on the casino!
The light rail fiasco was before I moved here but was documented in the Gaston Gazette archives. However, when the Gazette & Shelby Star were sold, those archives were taken offline.

Within the past year, CATS has come back to Gaston County asking them to cooperate with a light rail line. I've gotten the impression that Belmont isn't too keen on it. However, the mayor of Kings Mountain is. Remember, Kings Mountain is in both Gaston & Cleveland counties. The old commuter line that died in the 60s ran from Kings Mountain to Gastonia to Belmont/Mt Holly to Charlotte.

The proposed casino has never been approved or denied. It's just hanging there. It would provide about 4,000 jobs without figuring in other businesses that would be attracted by the casino but not connected to it. There is the jumpstart for western Gastonia & Kings Mountain. Without a signature from a governor, the Catawbas wouldn't be obliged to give the state one red cent. They have said that their budget includes money for road enhancements. Once they start operating, I suspect that they'd see a benefit to helping out with a light rail line that would bring people from Charlotte to Kings Mountain via Gastonia, especially from the airport. It just makes sense. Some posters have said that I'm out of my mind. I prefer to think of it as hopeful.
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Old 10-23-2017, 10:33 PM
 
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The light rail fiasco was before I moved here but was documented in the Gaston Gazette archives. However, when the Gazette & Shelby Star were sold, those archives were taken offline.

Within the past year, CATS has come back to Gaston County asking them to cooperate with a light rail line. I've gotten the impression that Belmont isn't too keen on it. However, the mayor of Kings Mountain is. Remember, Kings Mountain is in both Gaston & Cleveland counties. The old commuter line that died in the 60s ran from Kings Mountain to Gastonia to Belmont/Mt Holly to Charlotte.

The proposed casino has never been approved or denied. It's just hanging there. It would provide about 4,000 jobs without figuring in other businesses that would be attracted by the casino but not connected to it. There is the jumpstart for western Gastonia & Kings Mountain. Without a signature from a governor, the Catawbas wouldn't be obliged to give the state one red cent. They have said that their budget includes money for road enhancements. Once they start operating, I suspect that they'd see a benefit to helping out with a light rail line that would bring people from Charlotte to Kings Mountain via Gastonia, especially from the airport. It just makes sense. Some posters have said that I'm out of my mind. I prefer to think of it as hopeful.
I, for one, don't think you're out of your mind. All progress begins with a dream. I remember a certain naysayer here about 10 years ago who was constantly on here proclaiming that the planned LYNX rail line up South Blvd into Uptown Charlotte was a huge waste of money, nobody would ever ride it, and it would fail. He could not envision the type of development the line would generate. Now here we are with the northern extension about to open. I'm not in Charlotte now, so I don't know all the details about the casino and talks about a possible westbound light rail extension, so I appreciate all your insights and information. This sounds very exciting to me. I'm glad CATS is talking to Gaston County again. All these people have different interests, but they can mutually benefit one another. If they put their heads together they can do great things.
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