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Old 01-20-2018, 04:23 PM
 
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Columbus has Ohio State Univ and Indy has Perdue and the Univ of Indiana nearby. All are top rated computer science schools. Charlotte isn't going to compete with them with just UNCC (and I say that as a UNCC alumnus).
Massive, in-town Ohio State in Columbus sure, but Indiana and Purdue an hour each from Indy are not so different than NC State and UNC. For Raleigh/RTP, its' selection to AMZN's 20-member short list makes sense with Duke added versus the relatively pedestrian Butler and not so impressive IUPUI (Indiana U and Purdue U in Indianapolis). As for Charlotte, UNCC, Queens, Johnson C Smith, CPCC, and Johnson & Wales may not have baked AMZN's cake.

 
Old 01-20-2018, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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- Indianapolis to Bloomington (Univ of Indiana) is 51 miles, or maybe about an hour drive.
- Indianapolis to West Lafeyette (Purdue) is 68 miles, or maybe a little over an hour drive.
- Charlotte to Chapel Hill, on the other hand, is 140 miles, or over a two hour drive.

IMO that's a significant difference.

It should also be noted there is a branch of Purdue in Indianapolis itself.
 
Old 01-20-2018, 07:22 PM
 
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- Indianapolis to Bloomington (Univ of Indiana) is 51 miles, or maybe about an hour drive.
- Indianapolis to West Lafeyette (Purdue) is 68 miles, or maybe a little over an hour drive.
- Charlotte to Chapel Hill, on the other hand, is 140 miles, or over a two hour drive.
IMO that's a significant difference. It should also be noted there is a branch of Purdue in Indianapolis itself.
Sure, an advantage for Raleigh yet while you focus on an hour or so driving distance AMZN's far more likely to be radar-locked on access to smart, well-educated, qualified tech employees. Possibly one factor in why Raleigh/RTP's on the 20-location initial short list versus Charlotte.

As referenced previously, IUPUI is a combined IU and PU branch. It has markedly lower admissions standards than the main IU and PU campuses let alone NC State, UNC, and Duke. The small aviation-focused Purdue Polytechnic Indy program is a JV with Vincennes University; perhaps relevant as AMZN expands its' own delivery capabilities.
 
Old 01-23-2018, 06:47 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Well lets see. Charlotte had very high violent crime for one and its only getting worse. It cant even decide where people should pee for another reason. That bill killed a lot of future endeavors for this place. Several businesses either pulled out of the city or halted coming here for future business. After that fiasco Charlotte deserved what it got. It just showed how bigoted it still is and how far it has to go compared to actual cities that younger generations will want to go to.
 
Old 01-23-2018, 06:57 AM
 
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It just showed how bigoted it still is and how far it has to go compared to actual cities that younger generations will want to go to.
You realize Charlotte passed a bill to allow people to determine their restroom based off their gender identity (a cause championed by liberals) and that it was the STATE of North Carolina that came in and overturned the city's bill by defining which restroom people should use, thus the HB2 bill at the STATE level. But maybe you meant the city was bigoted for passing an ordinance that cities like Austin, Boston, Seattle, Denver, New York, etc... have that allowed people to determine their gender identity and restroom of choice?
 
Old 01-23-2018, 07:02 AM
 
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You realize Charlotte passed a bill to allow people to determine their restroom based off their gender identity (a cause championed by liberals) and that it was the STATE of North Carolina that came in and overturned the city's bill by defining which restroom people should use, thus the HB2 bill at the STATE level. But maybe you meant the city was bigoted for passing an ordinance that cities like Austin, Boston, Seattle, Denver, New York, etc... have that allowed people to determine their gender identity and restroom of choice?
Right. And since Raleigh made the list, it's obvious that HB2 didn't have much of an effect.
 
Old 01-23-2018, 07:08 AM
 
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Well lets see. Charlotte had very high violent crime for one and its only getting worse.
It was certainly the size of the city's tech workforce. Many of the Amazon cities have far higher crime rates. Charlotte would have fallen right in the middle of the Amazon cities for homicide rates. 11 Amazon cities have homicide rates higher than Charlotte: Atlanta, Chicago, Columbus, Dallas, Indianapolis, Miami, Nashville, Newark, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and Washington DC. Not saying Charlotte's homicide rate should be tolerated - we should all be striving to reduce crime - but Amazon included places like Philadelphia, Chicago, Columbus, etc... that have higher murder rates so it couldn't have been too much of a factor. Amazon told the Charlotte City Chamber our tech workforce wasn't large enough (~47,000 people work directly in tech in CLT). While our tech workforce was larger than the likes of Indianapolis and Nashville, Raleigh's tech workforce is larger within our state making them the obvious choice from North Carolina. Several of the smaller cities might be stalking horse bids to play incentives off of each other. For example, if Charlotte and Raleigh are both included, that is just one state offering an incentive package. Nashville though over Charlotte introduce Tennessee into the game. If Tennessee offers a $5 billion incentive package, they can go tell a place like Illinois they need to up their incentive package to match and bluff they won't pick Chicago, etc... Same reason there are three locations selected in the Washington DC metro (DC, Virginia, and Maryland), to play those three states off of each other to maximize incentives.

Homicide rate per 100,000 people:
Atlanta: 7.8
Austin: 1.2
Boston: 3.0
Chicago: 12.1
Columbus: 7.7
Dallas: 6.3
Denver: 4.0
Indianapolis: 6.7
Los Angeles: 3.5
Miami: 5.7
Montgomery County, MD: 0.9
Nashville: 8.0
Newark: 10.3
New York City: 1.5
Northern Virginia, VA: 0.8
Philadelphia: 9.9
Pittsburgh: 8.6
Raleigh, NC
Toronto, ON
Washington D.C.: 8.1

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/mur...st-u-s-cities/

Charlotte: 5.6
 
Old 01-23-2018, 08:02 AM
 
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Well lets see. Charlotte had very high violent crime for one and its only getting worse. It cant even decide where people should pee for another reason. That bill killed a lot of future endeavors for this place. Several businesses either pulled out of the city or halted coming here for future business. After that fiasco Charlotte deserved what it got. It just showed how bigoted it still is and how far it has to go compared to actual cities that younger generations will want to go to.
Just.go.away.please.
 
Old 01-23-2018, 10:43 AM
 
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How Charlotte may have dodged a bullet with Amazon HQ2
 
Old 01-23-2018, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Charlotte Observer has had a lot to say on this Amazon topic.

Amazon HQ2 shortlist snubbed Charlotte for similar cities | Charlotte Observer
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