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Old 04-17-2008, 05:55 AM
 
Location: State of Being
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I think there is more of a problem w/ thugs who have either moved into this area or have come up thru/ the juvenile system. If anyone has noticed the trending . . . most of these guys (local thugs) are under age 20 and are already repeat offenders. In addition, people get out after a 20 year stint in the prison system and they re-offend. I don't think this is unique to Charlotte.

As is common throughout the country, many of these young guys are school dropouts and either on drugs or are drug dealers. So you add that element of irrational thinking and lack of job skills . . . they turn to crime as a way of making money (pawn stuff, sell on street) and pay for drugs.

The sentencing guidelines need to be re-examined, and those guidelines are approved by the State General Assembly.
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Old 04-17-2008, 06:10 AM
 
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I think there is more of a problem w/ thugs who have either moved into this area or have come up thru/ the juvenile system. If anyone has noticed the trending . . . most of these guys (local thugs) are under age 20 and are already repeat offenders. In addition, people get out after a 20 year stint in the prison system and they re-offend. I don't think this is unique to Charlotte.

As is common throughout the country, many of these young guys are school dropouts and either on drugs or are drug dealers. So you add that element of irrational thinking and lack of job skills . . . they turn to crime as a way of making money (pawn stuff, sell on street) and pay for drugs.

The sentencing guidelines need to be re-examined, and those guidelines are approved by the State General Assembly.

Unfortunately I think ebay is the 21st century version of a pawn shop and that is one reason we are seeing robberies of electronics.

I worked at one time in the past for a retail store and these crime rings would come in the store and grab merchandise and go. They hit same brand store because of it relax security methods thanks to lawyers making it hard for merchants to do anything when something happening.
One of the stores had security cameras and match the description as one that hit ours.

They would come in groups two distract the associates and two to grab and go and another with car sitting ready to go.
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Old 04-17-2008, 06:15 AM
 
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Unfortunately I think ebay is the 21st century version of a pawn shop and that is one reason we are seeing robberies of electronics.
I think you are totally accurate with that, Sunny. I saw an article on this very subject w/in the last two months. Some entity was putting pressure on Ebay to be more stringent about ferreting out stolen goods (but don't know how they would go about doing that . . . ) I don't remember seeing a follow up story but if I can find it, I will post. Ebay is the "wild west" when it comes to stolen goods.

In the last few weeks, I remember seeing a story from Burke County, I believe, about a man who was caught w/ a garage full of lawnmowers and other lawn equipment he had been stealing . . . and evidently selling at flea markets (and other such outlets). So I guess between Ebay, flea markets and other online sales . . . no telling where "used" goods are coming from.

EDIT: Found this from National Retail Federation.

National Retail Federation - News :

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Old 04-17-2008, 06:20 AM
 
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What is really sick is that these scumbags occasionally do enough time in prison to get their degree in sociology, complete enough research to know how to beat the criminal justice system in the future, and work out with weights to build muscles. What do we have as a result? We have an idiot with a degree that knows how to beat the system and remain a habitual care-free criminal. In addition to that, he has the muscle power to make himself more intimidating to his victims and do more damage to his "ho". I suggest that we send those that are threat to society to jail, starve them, keep them in a cell without an opportunity to build up their bodies, and disallow any type of comminication with others or lixuries like televisions, radios, etc. Or better still, build a giant shredder and drop them in it. We could recycle them as chum. This would elliminate them from commiting future crime. I know that this sounds stupid, but it is doable.
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Old 04-17-2008, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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So who is the Chief of Police in Charlotte? Someone needs to hound him or Charlotte residence will take manners in their own hands. If i find someone inside my home, you better believe im not aimming for his leg...

I bought a new home here in miami 5 years ago, it was a brand new community 3 miles from project. Few month after people started moving in we were having problems. Police would sometimes not come, because they didnt have enough policeman for petty stuff. So we had a neighborhood meeting. We decided to start calling the police everyday of every week, until they realized that there was a problem. They started hiring more officers, soon after that crime went down....now if you here of an incident, it was a miracle...the worst thing we've had happen was someone knocked down the gate...
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:05 AM
 
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Your missing the pont many of us have express above.

It doesnt matter if the police chief takes a tougher stance in crime if the city and state does not hire enough da's and judges to prosecute plus tougher legislation for the various crimes commited it take responsibity in electing those who will take a stance.

For instance lets say a crook is caught for high speed chase and running a red light and
he running because he just rob a Circle K. He can pay a lawyer to have the first charges drop if he pleas guilty to the third. That is why you see multiple charges alot because the cops are hoping one of them will stick.

I know you are just an outsider looking in and until you know the area you cant really make an assesment on the real crime story here and just reading forums you do not have a true picture of how safe this area is. Only locals know the true story and only locals can make a change.
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:23 AM
 
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Sunny your right about that....One thing i can tell you, back in the 1980's Miami was a drug dealers paradise...Thats why the movie "SCARFACE" was realeased. It took a few years but we finally got the right people to stop it. Here's the way I see it...If we all are sitting here discussing this issue, that means that someone sitting in a commisioners seat or maybe chief of police know this issue even better. They should take a page from Rudy Gulianni, How he helped the NY subway problems...Mr Gulianni is a man that i say has "bolas".
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:34 AM
 
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Sunny your right about that....One thing i can tell you, back in the 1980's Miami was a drug dealers paradise...Thats why the movie "SCARFACE" was realeased. It took a few years but we finally got the right people to stop it. Here's the way I see it...If we all are sitting here discussing this issue, that means that someone sitting in a commisioners seat or maybe chief of police know this issue even better. They should take a page from Rudy Gulianni, How he helped the NY subway problems...Mr Gulianni is a man that i say has "bolas".
Hi, Luis! Here is how I see it. Our law enforcement here is awesome. They are really good people and as is demonstrated from all the "high visibility" arrests they have made recently, I think they are doing their jobs. I think the Chief of Police feels his hands are somewhat tied - as his officers are out doing their jobs . . . and bringing in the thugs . . . but a combination of things is happening w/ the justice system. Yes, cases are being pled out . . . no doubt . . . but it is all done in accordance w/ guidelines . . . and it appears to me, the DA wants to plead out cases to keep dockets open. Maybe we need more courts, judges and DAs to prosecute and try the cases.

However, it is not the Chief of Police who is at the root of this "revolving door" situation. He just does not have the power to influence anything other than operations w/in his own department - and I think our LE officers have demonstrated they are doing their best to catch these creeps. This is a large county and I would think hiring more officers would also help w/ response time . . . but again . . . that is all a budgeting matter - getting the money to hire those officers. So this is not something the Chief can do a thing about - all he can do is request the funding.
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:55 AM
 
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Maybe i should get out of the auto business and lend a hand in the department...Probably jails are overcrowded as well
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Old 04-17-2008, 08:03 AM
 
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Maybe i should get out of the auto business and lend a hand in the department...Probably jails are overcrowded as well
The two jails of Mecklenburg are not overcrowded
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