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Old 06-19-2008, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Ballantyne - Endhaven Communities
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I really like this idea, for the second same offense of course. I also like the 3 strikes and you're out rule for the same offense. Armed robbery 3 times = life sentence!
Perhaps not the second "same" offense, but a second offense of a similar nature. Maybe anything involving a weapon.

3 strikes is also quite appealing.
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Old 06-19-2008, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Fort Mill, SC (Charlotte 'burb)
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These idiots would be senteneced to life in York County. That one guy committed several armed robberies in Meck over 20 years and was still free to rob a business in SC. One time there and he got life.
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Old 06-19-2008, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Ballantyne - Endhaven Communities
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These idiots would be senteneced to life in York County. That one guy committed several armed robberies in Meck over 20 years and was still free to rob a business in SC. One time there and he got life.
Same with other NC counties surrounding Mecklenburg.
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Old 06-19-2008, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Cornelius
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Perhaps not the second "same" offense, but a second offense of a similar nature.
Agreed.
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Old 06-19-2008, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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I think a lot of these problems would be solved if we just made the penalties for the offenses harsher. Let's say, like...making it a lot easier to get the death penalty...

It would certainly take the trash off the streets!
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Old 06-19-2008, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Ballantyne - Endhaven Communities
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I think a lot of these problems would be solved if we just made the penalties for the offenses harsher. Let's say, like...making it a lot easier to get the death penalty...

It would certainly take the trash off the streets!
This is certainly an argument, BUT, we first have to get them convicted and prosecuted before we can sentence them and THAT is where Charlotte's problem tends to be.
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Old 06-19-2008, 04:23 PM
 
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Yes they did. And on that note, why don't we simultaneously ban the local ACLU so we won't have that problem. What a destructive organization!
Here is where we are going to go separate ways, philosophically

I don't think it is acceptable to prosecute anybody based on internet postings unless the actual posting is criminal in and of itself. In other words, posting a picture of a moron holding a gun and making the Star Trek live long and prosper sign is not a crime, no matter what the picture represents, while posting a picture of child pornography is actually a crime that can and should be prosecuted. Believe it or not, posting a picture of a bundle of money and bags of drugs is not illegal either.

On the same note, I am uncomfortable with most racketeering laws, in that verified membership in any organization in and of itself should not be criminal. We simply need to catch criminals committing crimes and prosecute them for the crimes they commit. Then we need to, as a community, have a criminal justice system that enforces our laws and does not use plea bargaining as a method of saving money.

The ACLU does a great job of making sure that we do not violate anyone's civil liberties ... even those that are offensive and dangerous. It is very important that we have watchdog groups such as this to prevent our government from overstepping its bounds (which it does anyway). If we are to maintain a free society, each of us, including the dirt-baggiest of the dirtbags, must not have our rights violated, even under the guise of protecting society.
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Old 06-19-2008, 04:23 PM
 
Location: State of Being
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This is certainly an argument, BUT, we first have to get them convicted and prosecuted before we can sentence them and THAT is where Charlotte's problem tends to be.
Agreed and case in point. You are not gonna believe this one!!!!

Crime in Charlotte, NC (http://www.crimeincharlotte.com/2008/06/38-arrests-in-3-years-2-convictions.html - broken link)

CMPD Officers have arrested 19 year old Hakeem Cherry 38 times in the past three years and he has yet to spend a day in jail. He has two convictions and he received probation for both charges- including a DUI!
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Old 06-19-2008, 04:25 PM
 
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I think a lot of these problems would be solved if we just made the penalties for the offenses harsher. Let's say, like...making it a lot easier to get the death penalty...

It would certainly take the trash off the streets!
Exactly what types of offenses would you add to the capital punishment list if you had your way?
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Old 06-19-2008, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Ballantyne - Endhaven Communities
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Agreed and case in point. You are not gonna believe this one!!!!

Crime in Charlotte, NC (http://www.crimeincharlotte.com/2008/06/38-arrests-in-3-years-2-convictions.html - broken link)

CMPD Officers have arrested 19 year old Hakeem Cherry 38 times in the past three years and he has yet to spend a day in jail. He has two convictions and he received probation for both charges- including a DUI!
Another similar case is with Cedric Gaston, although I think they finally caught him.
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