United way? (Charlotte, King: fit in, YMCA, school)

[Whytewulf]

Originally Posted by Chef Giorgio

$345,000 is not nothing in my book. Plus it's got to be your calling as well if you decide to serve the community and be a leader in non-profit organization, and thus you should know that such compensation will not be the same as those in the private sector.

I mean people don't become pastors or preists with just $$$ in your mind. It is a matter of principle.

$345,000/yr should be considered a pretty good salary that should not require such additional retirement benefit pkgs to exceed $1million, but well if you want to keep contributing to Ms. King's fund you are entitled to.

And also, she was not the United Way CEO, she was a "branch manager". I don't care if she was responsable for taking in $40MM or $100MM, I know people who are responable for much more and make half that. I don't see why a nice $150K salary plus some bonuses wouldn't work. Hmm Another $200K for the charity a year.

[Miker2069]

Originally Posted by Chef Giorgio

$345,000 is not nothing in my book. Plus it's got to be your calling as well if you decide to serve the community and be a leader in non-profit organization, and thus you should know that such compensation will not be the same as those in the private sector.

I mean people don't become pastors or preists with just $$$ in your mind. It is a matter of principle.

$345,000/yr should be considered a pretty good salary that should not require such additional retirement benefit pkgs to exceed $1million, but well if you want to keep contributing to Ms. King's fund you are entitled to.

I'm not sure if you really read the article and understand the breakdown of her compensation package and I don't think you're up to speed on what % of every dollar goes directly to service and what goes to mgmt. Where is it written that an outside entity should determine the salary of a non-profit or for-profit. So you're point is made, you believe your contribution is going directly to the pocket of management, and it's your prerogative to do whatever you want with your money.

However it's not anyone's business to dictate how much or how little someone should make when that same person doesn't want anyone telling them how much he/she should make solely because you feel it's to much.

[Whytewulf]

Originally Posted by Miker2069

However it's not anyone's business to dictate how much or how little someone should make when that same person doesn't want anyone telling them how much he/she should make solely because you feel it's to much.

In most cases I woudl agree, however, since I feel like a shareholder by donating money, I feel I should be able to dictate where my money goes. But your right, we do have a choice, don't donate. Thats the problem, a high salary, whether perception or reality can cause people to put there money elsewhere. And then in today's market, where people need help the most, the perception is the worst.

[Teacherchick24]

Wow, this blows me away. And makes me really angry! Every year at the public schools where I've worked we've had intense pressure to reach 100%. That already bothered me because I give to charities of my own CHOICE! But then if you didn't give, it felt like everyone looked down on you and thought you were selfish. I won't be contributing anymore, that's for sure.

[Chef Giorgio]

Originally Posted by Miker2069

I'm not sure if you really read the article and understand the breakdown of her compensation package and I don't think you're up to speed on what % of every dollar goes directly to service and what goes to mgmt. Where is it written that an outside entity should determine the salary of a non-profit or for-profit. So you're point is made, you believe your contribution is going directly to the pocket of management, and it's your prerogative to do whatever you want with your money.

However it's not anyone's business to dictate how much or how little someone should make when that same person doesn't want anyone telling them how much he/she should make solely because you feel it's to much.

You are right, I didn't read the full article b/c I was so mad I almost had to burn the paper.
Well joke aside I do understand a great % does go to charities but how you can not blame people for being ticked off about this when as Teacherchick24 said so many get pushed into donating!!

Again someone working for a NPO should reconsider a career path change if he or she does not find anything wrong in profiting that much $$$ from an institution solely depending on donations. Perhaps she should look for a job as a campaign manager if she is so good at rasing cash.

And you are right the choice is ours and I think a lot of people have voiced what we'll they be telling their manager to stick that little pledge UW card when the time arrives.

[Metallisteve]

It's called morals. We can go round and round about who should make what and who has and hasn't the right to question that salary. The fact is, she makes a lot of money. that money comes from an organization that helps less fortunate folks and other programs that otherwise have little to no money. I'm sure there are plenty of people and organizations that get turned down by the United Way due to budgetary constraints. The fact that she can go home and sleep tight on her 500 thread count Egyptian cotton sheets while some person got denied for medical help or some childrens organization had to duct tape a basketball together due to no funds to buy new ones this year is the root of the problem.

If you can't understand morals and just knowing right and wrong, you've got what's become a popular problem of being too damn sterile. Folks will argue that there is no defined right and wrong. I highly disagree with this (as do 99.99% of the other people out there) statement and think it is blatantly obvious that there is a wrong here.

[Miker2069]

Originally Posted by Chef Giorgio

You are right, I didn't read the full article b/c I was so mad I almost had to burn the paper.
Well joke aside I do understand a great % does go to charities but how you can not blame people for being ticked off about this when as Teacherchick24 said so many get pushed into donating!!

Again someone working for a NPO should reconsider a career path change if he or she does not find anything wrong in profiting that much $$$ from an institution solely depending on donations. Perhaps she should look for a job as a campaign manager if she is so good at rasing cash.

And you are right the choice is ours and I think a lot of people have voiced what we'll they be telling their manager to stick that little pledge UW card when the time arrives.

Yes I can understand the sentiment, really I do. I feel the exact same way about service men and women and there families. I prefer to save my anger on what they are paid along with their benefits given this risks that they take. I don't even want to get started on that one.

[Miker2069]

Originally Posted by Metallisteve

It's called morals. We can go round and round about who should make what and who has and hasn't the right to question that salary. The fact is, she makes a lot of money. that money comes from an organization that helps less fortunate folks and other programs that otherwise have little to no money. I'm sure there are plenty of people and organizations that get turned down by the United Way due to budgetary constraints. The fact that she can go home and sleep tight on her 500 thread count Egyptian cotton sheets while some person got denied for medical help or some childrens organization had to duct tape a basketball together due to no funds to buy new ones this year is the root of the problem.

If you can't understand morals and just knowing right and wrong, you've got what's become a popular problem of being too damn sterile. Folks will argue that there is no defined right and wrong. I highly disagree with this (as do 99.99% of the other people out there) statement and think it is blatantly obvious that there is a wrong here.

I really had to chuckle, now it's to much for her to sleep on 100% cotton, she should sleep on polyester sheets darn it! The horror!

It's really ridiculous now. If everyone really feels like this is a travesty, lead by example, sell your car, buy a scooter and then give some needy person or family the difference.

Don't everyone rush for the door all at once!

[Metallisteve]

There's no need to go to a drastic means...as there is no need to pay her peanuts. Speaking for myself, I do try to lead by example or practice what I preach. I go without the latest flat panel TV, without a full kitchen remodel, without quarterly vacations, without a new car every 3 years...the money that my wife and I give away in tithing and donations/charitable contributions could easily pay for all of this.

Furthermore, I do lead by example with my line of work. With my degree and experience, I could be raking it in...shoving $100's under my mattress covered in the finest sheets...probably even silk (gasp). Instead, I chose to work in a line that allows me to serve the community in which I call home, making far less money, but yielding a higher satisfaction...all coupled with a ridiculous pressure to give to a "charity" who likes to pay their overzealous "CEO" boo-koo dollars. Without starting to place strain on my family and not be able to enjoy at least some satisfactions of going to college, gaining tons of experience, and getting a good job, I really do think I am leading by example.

Miker, it really befounds me that you can't see ANY wrong in the head of what's supposed to be a "charity" making an astronomical salary and benefit compensation...relatively speaking, of course...I wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelings.

A friend once said to me:
"In a world of such high tolerance of everything, it's disturbing how intolerance of anything is not tolerated."

[Stripes17]

I have to believe that Miker has a close relationship to this story. Not sure of the connection, but he's doing his darnedest to rebut each and every grievance of the unhappy majority. I respect his enthusiam even though we disagree on the topic.

Come this fall when you start seeing the UW propaganda at work, I hope someone remembers to revitalize this thread to recall that your bullied donations are funding this womans' lavish compensation package.