United way? (Charlotte, Durham, Mooresville: preschool, college, compensation)

[businessperson]

Originally Posted by charlotteengr

I think many volunteers at a Goodwill store could do a better job than Mrs King. She did not create United Way. Board members who pressure their employees to give raise most of the money.

I grant that Mrs King and others in UW management are smart to be able to skim large amounts of money for themselves.

I feel sorry for the charities they support. If they say anything negative about the situation they would probably be cut off.

My opinion is stop contributing to UW. Force your HR department to stop strong arm tactics to make you contribute.

It is indeed corporate strong arming, and I believe would be illegal in any other setting. Why does it cost so much to join the WMCA in Charlotte if they are "Supported" by United Way funds? I would encourage any employee of a any corporation in the Charlotte area or anywhere else to absolutely refuse to surrender to the extortionists. Give to your local church, community center, cancer society, diabetes foundation or whomever.

[Palmetto Heel]

Originally Posted by anifani821

I would have assumed that here in Charlotte, an appropriate salary for this position would be in the $120-150,000 range

I'd say $300s, NOT including benefits.

[anifani821]

Originally Posted by Palmetto Heel

I'd say $300s, NOT including benefits.

Well . . . after doing more research - I think $300,000, tops. Compare the budget to other foundations, for example, and their CEOs salaries. . . And as far as bennies . . .that should not include a bizillion dollars for a retirement fund. But again . . . just my opinion and I am not on the Board, LOL. Which reminds me . . . I have been meaning to look up who the members on that board are, cause I want to work for them if they are that generous w/ handing out the bennies.

[roanokers]

Originally Posted by Charlotteborn

Can anyone explain to me how it is acceptable for the president of a non-profit organization to be compensated over 1 million dollars? I used to be a contributor but never again!

It is not exceptable, ever. I donate to my local food pantry or homeless shelter. Their overhead is so low that most of the money actually gets to the people who need it.

[Metallisteve]

I know this is going to chap Miker's hide...but I'll emphasize this once more...

United Way is NOT a typical Fortune 500 company. There is absolutely NO comparison between UW's CEO and, say, BofA's CEO. It's a joke to compare King's salary to anyone else's since it's in a whole different category. It's why the military doesn't give sign-up bonuses to officers...they're supposed to be there for the honor, not the money.

On the topic of their car salesman 101 paper being circulated, my favorite is page 18. "How to completely avoid someone's question." Remember to smile folks...maybe even throw in a wink to the person who asked the question. It'll make them completely forget what they asked.

[anifani821]

Originally Posted by Metallisteve

I know this is going to chap Miker's hide...but I'll emphasize this once more...

United Way is NOT a typical Fortune 500 company. There is absolutely NO comparison between UW's CEO and, say, BofA's CEO. It's a joke to compare King's salary to anyone else's since it's in a whole different category. It's why the military doesn't give sign-up bonuses to officers...they're supposed to be there for the honor, not the money.

On the topic of their car salesman 101 paper being circulated, my favorite is page 18. "How to completely avoid someone's question." Remember to smile folks...maybe even throw in a wink to the person who asked the question. It'll make them completely forget what they asked.

Steve - totally agree - UW is not comparable to a Fortune 500 company. First of all, think about why UW exists. It exists as a clearing house. That is it. They review social programs in the community and decide how much money to give them. Where do they get the money? From donations. So the bookkeeper in the organization has the burden of the actual operations on his/her shoulders. The money is raised thru/ PR efforts, but not in the same way as other Foundations across this country. There is a built-in mechanism, staffed w/ volunteers at each company wh/ hold fund raising drives. So think about it. The CEO is essentially a smiling face who attends meetings to assure that other CEOs (and HR people) are onboard to gear up an annual campaign. The CEO attends functions, makes a canned speech to everyone, maybe shows a power point presentation . . . and goes home. The CFO (or whoever has to deal w/ the finances) has the burden of work - and then I am sure a CPA firm audits everything (or perhaps a CPA firm handles all the donations and disbursements- I have no clue how CLT has their staff set up). Sure, the CEO is doubtless busy every week attending meetings, shaking hands and following up on calls. Much of the legwork, tho, would be handled by internal staff (assembling materials, scheduling appearances and events).

This is nothing like the responsibilities that a hospital CEO or a principal in a law or CPA or architectural or engineering firm has on his/her shoulders. NO WAY. Don't even try to make that argument w/ me. Don't try to compare it to a cardiologist or neuro-surgeon, either - even tho UW's compensation is higher than most docs make.

I want a list of the board members. Like I said . . . I wanna work for them if they are that free and easy w/ handing out compensation. Or maybe they are just free and easy w/ compensation when it is based on donated money. Maybe they are not so generous to their own employees.

[flyingscotsman]

Time for my rant on the subject!!!!

I have thought for years that several top persons in United Way are corrupt and/or overpaid.

United Way in no way shape or form can be compared to any company that provides a service or product, usually the CEO's off those company’s are even more corrupt, judging by the number of trials lately.

Mrs. King is not the CEO of United way, but merely in charge of this local chapter, do I think she is over paid, yes I do, that’s my personal opinion.

I no longer give to United Way the event's in Miami left a bad taste in ones mouth.

I still give to charity, I do it off my own free will not coerced by company bosses etc.

Oh and from time to time I will buy a homeless person a meal, you can tell who is in need and who's a drunk quite easily.

Rant over carry on!!!!

[anifani821]

The Cancer Society has been lobbying for businesses to make it possible for their employees to make direct contributions to them. The article is below. Please note what a United Way board member, Russel Robinson said about such a move:

<Board member Russell Robinson said a move away from a United Way-centered campaign would be "very, very bad.">

Here is the link to the story, printed in Raleigh's News and Observer

newsobserver.com | Charlotte United Way may face rival

And please take time to read this article, from the Chronicle of Philanthropy, a national, highly respected publication for professionals. I have stated that I felt a salary in the $150,000 range, plus bennies, would be about right for CLT's UW CEO. Tops would be $300,000. Here is what the CEO of the nation's charity "watchdog" organization had to say about Ms. King's compensation:

<But Aaron Dorfman, executive director of the National Committee for Responsive Philanthropy, a charity watchdog group, countered: “Nonprofit executives deserve fair compensation packages, but this is outrageous.”>

As a comparison, the article notes that the CEO of St. Louis's UW was paid $254,487 in salary and contributed $75,826 for benefits, and that organization raised $69 M last year as compared to Charlotte's $44 M.

Charlotte United Way President Gets Big Benefits Increase - Philanthropy.com

[Whytewulf]

Originally Posted by anifani821

The Cancer Society has been lobbying for businesses to make it possible for their employees to make direct contributions to them. The article is below. Please note what a United Way board member, Russel Robinson said about such a move:

<Board member Russell Robinson said a move away from a United Way-centered campaign would be "very, very bad.">

Here is the link to the story, printed in Raleigh's News and Observer

newsobserver.com | Charlotte United Way may face rival

And please take time to read this article, from the Chronicle of Philanthropy, a national, highly respected publication for professionals. I have stated that I felt a salary in the $150,000 range, plus bennies, would be about right for CLT's UW CEO. Tops would be $300,000. Here is what the CEO of the nation's charity "watchdog" organization had to say about Ms. King's compensation:

<But Aaron Dorfman, executive director of the National Committee for Responsive Philanthropy, a charity watchdog group, countered: “Nonprofit executives deserve fair compensation packages, but this is outrageous.”>

As a comparison, the article notes that the CEO of St. Louis's UW was paid $254,487 in salary and contributed $75,826 for benefits, and that organization raised $69 M last year as compared to Charlotte's $44 M.

Charlotte United Way President Gets Big Benefits*Increase - Philanthropy.com

Can we say UW pays its Chapter Heads way too much. Just because they give them CEO totals, doesn't mean they get compensated like a Fortune 500. They aren't even CEOs, because they don't have a profit or shareholders per se'. Again, I know VP's that do much more and get PAID much less. I will repeat, they have lost my business and I campaign in my company (though to no avail) that we should change our ways.

[anifani821]

Here is the list of the Regional Directors, as it appears on the United Way of Central Carolinas' website. Seems the Board is heavy w/ finance people (banks, CPAs, investment corps). Add to that the other companies which employ large numbers of employees, and therefore, are top contributors to United Way. I do note that the Charlotte Observer has a person on the board. One should note, of course, that there is probably an executive compensation committee (as well as a finance committee) that is made up of various board members . . .and those are the names I would like to see.

Regional Board of Directors
Graham Denton
Chairman of the Board

Carlos Evans
First Vice Chair/Strategic Planning Chair
Wachovia Corporation

Jeffrey Kane
Treasurer and Chair, Finance Committee
Federal Reserve Bank

Morrison Creech
Asst. Treasurer/Vice Chair, Finance Committee
Wachovia Corporation

Gloria King
President
United Way of Central Carolinas, Inc.

Penny Adams
Success By Six Chair
Robbins-Gioia

Charles Bowman
Tocqueville Chair
Bank of America

Kenneth Braxton
Audit Committee Chair
KPMG LLP

Anita Brown
UWCC Representative to UWNC Board
Carolinas Medical Center NorthEast

Gracie Coleman
Human Resources Chair
Fairpoint Communications

Thomas Dillon
Life Director

TJ Eberle
Information Technology Chair
NouvEON Technology Partners, Inc.

Andrew Elliott
Community Building Chair/Community Investment Chair
Pricewaterhouse Coopers LLP

Bill Farmer
Marketing Vice Chair
Time Warner Cable - Corporate

Susan Faulkner
CommunityWorks Chair
Bank of America

Curt Fochtmann
Community Outreach Chair
Ernst & Young LLP

Paul Franz
Chair of Nominations
Carolinas HealthCare System

Arthur Gallagher
Community Investment Vice Chair
Johnson & Wales University

David Green
Mooresville/Lake Norman Board Chair
Lowe's Companies, Inc.

David Gurley
Legacy Foundation Chair
Merrill Lynch - South Park Office

William Happer
Cabarrus County Board Chair
First Citizens Bank - Concord

Brad Howard
Mooresville/Lake Norman Campaign Chair
The Langtree Group, LLC

Branson Jones
Life Director
Oiles America Corp.

Harry Jones
Resource Development Chair
County Managers Office

George Liles
Cabarrus County Campaign Chair
Liles Construction Company

Jane McIntyre
Council of Agency Executives Chair
YWCA Central Carolinas

Knox Morrison
Cabarrus County Vice Chair
Morrison Brothers Building Center

Bill Norwood
Union County Campaign Chair
State Utility Contractors, Inc.

Mark Ricci
Mecklenburg County Campaign Chair
Bank of America

Russell Robinson
Life Director
Robinson, Bradshaw & Hinson, PA

Ellen Ruff
Regional Campaign Chair
Duke Energy Corporation

Michael Smith
Public Policy Committee Chair
Charlotte Center City Partners

Fred Thompson
Anson County Board Chair
Anson Community Hospital

Carol Tyson
Union Coutny Vice Chair
The Real Estate Link

Thomas Williams
Union County Board Chair

Nini Bautista

John Belk
Belk Inc. - Headquarters

Irvin Bisnov
Deloitte & Touche LLP

Charles Brown
County Public Library

Ann Caulkins
The Charlotte Observer

John Chen

Ronald Cofield
Pricewaterhouse Coopers LLP

Edward Curran
Bissell Company

Philip Dubois
UNC Charlotte

David Dzuricky
Piedmont Natural Gas

David Ellerbe
Carolinas HealthCare System

Richard Gilbert
Southeast Anesthesiology Consultants, PA

Lynn Good
Duke Energy Corporation

Peter Gorman
Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools

Hilda Gurdian
La Noticia, Inc.The Spanish Language Newspaper

Joseph Hallow
Bissell Family of Companies

James Harrison
Coca-Cola Bottling Co. Consolidated

Kimberly Henderson
Presbyterian Healthcare
Presbyterian Hospital Foundation

Kelly Hynes
TIAA-CREF

Peter Kelly
Bank of America

Hal Levinson
Moore & Van Allen PLLC

Kenneth Lewis
Bank of America

Mary Mack

Timothy Mayopoulos
Bank of America

J. Michael McGuire
Grant Thornton LLP

R. Malloy McKeithen
Helms Mulliss & Wicker, PLLC

Robert Morgan
The Charlotte Chamber

Thomas Nelson
National Gypsum Company

Eugene Pridgen
K & L Gates LLP

Dana Rader
Dana Rader Golf

John Switzer
KPMG LLP

Ken Thompson
Wachovia Corporation

Robert Wilson
ROWBOAT Dock & Dredge