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Old 07-23-2008, 09:30 PM
 
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I hate to break it to you, but you find this same crap in the civilian sector, and probably with far greater frequency.
I hate to break it to you, but I never made any comparison to the private sector, nor did I say that the majority of the military are losers. I only stated that there are many losers in the the military. You would do well to take an introductory course in symbolic logic.

 
Old 07-23-2008, 09:31 PM
 
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lol...there is a huge difference between conservatives and fascist/theocratic regimes.
There's a huge difference between liberals and socialist/communist regimes. I'm afraid the nuance (LOL) is lost on you.
 
Old 07-23-2008, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Mooresville, NC
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You've bought into the lies of the far right hook, line, and sinker. I truly feel sorry for you and for our nation. There was a point in time, not that long ago, that politicians and the public they represent felt that compromise was a good thing. Need I remind you that George Bush campaigned as a "uniter"?
Tell me, Palmetto, why some of you think that we conservatives have "bought into the lies" of the right wing movement? Has it ever occured to you that we have our own opinions, and tend to listen to and rally behind like-minded people? Do you have the concept of "free thinking" on lockdown? Is it just we conservatives who are misguided and brainwashed? Oh, tell me more, great thinker. Please don't leave anything out, either. I need to know about all of these lies that I've been fed all of these years. What is the REAL way to think? I can't believe that all of my values and beliefs are manufactured by a conspiracy!!
 
Old 07-23-2008, 09:34 PM
 
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One last thing, I think that we've bandied about the term "hero" to the point where it is almost meaningless. It should be reserved for people who do truly extraordinary things, medal of honor winners for example.
I reserve the term "hero" for those who put themselves on the line every day to serve their fellow man, be they public officers, military men and women or whomever.

There are also heroes in the classroom. Granted, there is not a hero in every classroom, and not all of us agree with the ideologies of public schools, but teaching others is a noble path.

I also think that fighting and dying for our right to have this argument, irrespective of on which side we come down, is pretty heroic.

I am routinely amazed at how it genuinely warms up the life of a police officer, firefighter or soldier if you merely say THANK YOU for what they do. It's the least you can do, whether you support the war or not, or whether you think public servants overstep their bounds.
 
Old 07-23-2008, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Cornelius
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You've bought into the lies of the far right hook, line, and sinker. I truly feel sorry for you and for our nation. There was a point in time, not that long ago, that politicians and the public they represent felt that compromise was a good thing. Need I remind you that George Bush campaigned as a "uniter"?
Seriously? wow...So you would argue that there is not a movement lead by the ACLU and like-minded organizations to destroy the moral fabric of this country by removing the 3 letters G-o-d from every facet of our nation, public and private? Would you disagree that the liberal movement does not want to tax tax tax in order to steal from "the rich" to feed "the poor"? Would argue that the liberal movement does not think it takes a village to raise a child? Would you disagree that the liberal movement wants to become one with the global agenda by offering up our soldiers to a world court, banning our firearms, ruling on border disputes, and having to bend over backwards to garner support to defend our nation?

It's not me who is suffering from seduction.
 
Old 07-23-2008, 09:37 PM
 
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The lie is that liberals are out to destroy America. The lie is that liberals are out to redistribute wealth. The lie is that there is no middle ground.

Your buddy, carolina_guy, caputured it pretty well:

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When the liberal movement I despise seeks to tear down the family traditions and the moral backbone of this country, seeks to distribute wealth to all, directs policies and programs to equalize every citizen, thinks that we live in a village, and seeks to erase our sovereignty for the greater good of the global community, then what middle ground is there to reach?
The fact of the matter is that "conservatives" aren't really conservative at all. If you were truly conservative then you would vote Libertarian.
 
Old 07-23-2008, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Cornelius
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There's a huge difference between liberals and socialist/communist regimes. I'm afraid the nuance (LOL) is lost on you.
I don't think so. Try doing some research on the ACLU, its roots, and its connection with communism. Take a look at two of the most liberal senators in Congress and their policies, and tell me they don't reek of pure socialism. It might do you well to go check out the Communist Manifesto from your local library. Maybe then you'll see the parallels between the communist ideology and objectives of today's liberal movement.
 
Old 07-23-2008, 09:41 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I only stated that there are many losers in the the military.
Sadly, given the lowering of recruiting standards to include people who would have been rejected in the past, due to their criminal record - that number is likely to increase. On the plus side, it may open up a few cells in the Mecklenburg County jail!
 
Old 07-23-2008, 09:43 PM
 
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Seriously? wow...So you would argue that there is not a movement lead by the ACLU and like-minded organizations to destroy the moral fabric of this country by removing the 3 letters G-o-d from every facet of our nation, public and private? Would you disagree that the liberal movement does not want to tax tax tax in order to steal from "the rich" to feed "the poor"? Would argue that the liberal movement does not think it takes a village to raise a child? Would you disagree that the liberal movement wants to become one with the global agenda by offering up our soldiers to a world court, banning our firearms, ruling on border disputes, and having to bend over backwards to garner support to defend our nation?

It's not me who is suffering from seduction.
Do you honestly think that any American in his right mind, whether he is card carrying members of the ACLU or the NRA (they're not mutually exclusive, mind you), wants to destroy the moral fabric of the country?
 
Old 07-23-2008, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Cornelius
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The lie is that liberals are out to destroy America. The lie is that liberals are out to redistribute wealth. The lie is that there is no middle ground.

Your buddy, carolina_guy, caputured it pretty well:



The fact of the matter is that "conservatives" aren't really conservative at all. If you were truly conservative then you would vote Libertarian.
Who said I didn't vote Libertarian and who said I was a Republican? I shed that label a couple of years ago.

Go back to my post previous to yours quoted here, and feel free to answer the questions I posed.
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