What is the law? Shoot 'em or not? (living in, legal)

[anifani821]

Originally Posted by da jammer

The legal implications of whackin' some yeahoo almost pale to the civil liability issues. If you have Castle Doctrine legislation wandering the halls of your legislature be sure to hound your...*cough cough* public servants to get this passed with the civil liability protection ironclad. (What group of politicians don't like that 'civil liability protection' again?? Hmmm.) Someone jackin' my A/C unit does not have to be worried about me shooting them unless of course the six witnesses I drag around with me everywhere I go say it's OK, they'll have my back when the popo shows up 20 minutes after the 911 call went out.

That is what I am thinking. Maybe we need to educate ourselves more and find out exactly what that bill is all about . . . and let our legislators know if we are in favor of passing it.

[da jammer]

Originally Posted by anifani821

That is what I am thinking. Maybe we need to educate ourselves more and find out exactly what that bill is all about . . . and let our legislators know if we are in favor of passing it.

I cannot stress enough how important it is to be sure you are protected financially by this legislation if, God forbid, you had to take a life to protect you and or your family. Just the legal cost alone (barring any payout above and beyond what your insurance company would be liable for if the family of the hairball sued you) would bankrupt just about anybody. Think $250--$500 an hour for a lawyer to defend you in civil court This ain't no messin' around and we do have these protections in the state I now reside.

[anifani821]

Originally Posted by da jammer

I cannot stress enough how important it is to be sure you are protected financially by this legislation if, God forbid, you had to take a life to protect you and or your family. Just the legal cost alone (barring any payout above and beyond what your insurance company would be liable for if the family of the hairball sued you) would bankrupt just about anybody. Think $250--$500 an hour for a lawyer to defend you in civil court This ain't no messin' around and we do have these protections in the state I now reside.

That is pretty scary, Jammer. I just read an article about a man who killed another man in a home invasion and the homeowner was acquitted of all charges (it was justifiable homicide, I think was the ruling). But the man's insurance (homeowner's and perhaps - umbrella policy - was not sure about that) would not cover the cost of the man's defense, so the poor guy was stuck w/ tremendous legal fees (wh/ I bet bankrupted him, altho the article did not state that). This was in NY state.

[joanchris2000]

Funny, we were discussing this today with my MIL, who is here visiting from Detroit. Luckily she's out of Detroit proper now, but not til just a few years ago. She's been robbed, burglerized, at gunpoint more than once. She mentioned that her husband had been told years ago that just be sure he dragged whoever he might have shot (the reference was if the perp was on the porch) over the threshold into the house.
I'm not advocating anything, just relaying a conversation

[da jammer]

Dragging someone anywhere from where you put them down will guarantee you some serious grief with the police and D.A. Not recommended. If you felt righteous at the time you pulled the trigger there would be no need to try and alter the scene.

[anifani821]

Originally Posted by da jammer

Dragging someone anywhere from where you put them down will guarantee you some serious grief with the police and D.A. Not recommended. If you felt righteous at the time you pulled the trigger there would be no need to try and alter the scene.

Yeah, but I know what JoanChris means. I have heard many a person say the same thing!!! In fact, when I was growing up, that is what the Sheriff's deputies told us when we had a guy breaking in to homes and attacking women. They said - look - shoot the SOB - and if he is outside, we will help you drag him in, Hee Hee Hee. Of course, I am sure they would have denied saying that had someone actually shot the pervert . . . but I am just relaying it b/c I sure heard it said.

[da jammer]

Originally Posted by anifani821

Yeah, but I know what JoanChris means. I have heard many a person say the same thing!!! In fact, when I was growing up, that is what the Sheriff's deputies told us when we had a guy breaking in to homes and attacking women. They said - look - shoot the SOB - and if he is outside, we will help you drag him in, Hee Hee Hee. Of course, I am sure they would have denied saying that had someone actually shot the pervert . . . but I am just relaying it b/c I sure heard it said.

Heh heh...it's all that CSI junk nowadays that mucks up all that way cool old school stuff up....dang it...miss those days!!!

[Barkingowl]

Dragging the body inside the house was what the local cops in MA told us to do too.

[TheEmissary]

Originally Posted by anifani821

Yeah, but I know what JoanChris means. I have heard many a person say the same thing!!! In fact, when I was growing up, that is what the Sheriff's deputies told us when we had a guy breaking in to homes and attacking women. They said - look - shoot the SOB - and if he is outside, we will help you drag him in, Hee Hee Hee. Of course, I am sure they would have denied saying that had someone actually shot the pervert . . . but I am just relaying it b/c I sure heard it said.

That was pretty much the story line we'd her in NJ, where the average person is nearly clueless about guns. In NJ you must retreat if an intruder enters your house. But it seems like if you shot someone in Charlotte especially, that it might be a half hour before the cops show up. With all the talk about suits, maybe calling the cops is not the best idea. I'd be tempted to dump any body in another county. NC is not crowded like NJ, and there are many places to dispose of a body in Union County, where no one would see or hear you. Why risk a lawsuit when you could neatly rid yourself of the problem. After all, why would the cops come to your house looking for a burglar if you didn't call them? Most of the solved cases involving dead bodies are victims who knew the killer. That would never apply in a case like this. Out of sight, out of mind!

[AmericanRoadGirl]

Originally Posted by Metallisteve

This floors me since this is the very state that our country's independence has everything to owe (read the history of the Battle of King's Mountain during the revolutionary war if you don't know what I'm talking about).

Originally Posted by anifani821

Steve - I am impressed that you know your Rev War history!!!! This state had some big battles in the Rev War and sadly, it seems so many people are unaware where the battlefields are located . . . and what role NC played in the Rev War.

Take heart, both of you...maybe folks in North Carolina don't know much about the battle of Kings Mountain 'cause it didn't happen in North Carolina. The battle took place in South Carolina. York County to be exact. The story/import of the battle is well-known down here in these parts, probably cause it happened here. Hey, we're more than willing to share the glory - folks who fought there came from all over, certain that includes the province of NC. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the history geek in me just had to clarify that point.

I bet you were just testing everyone with your "trick posts".