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Old 08-14-2008, 09:01 AM
 
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Well, now I feel better about turning from the inside right turn lane. I apologize to all those who have been behind me while I waited for the light to turn green.
Don't you mean outside right turn lane? Inside lane should have always been good.
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Old 08-14-2008, 09:09 AM
 
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Anyone know if you can do left on red when entering a one way cross street. So you would look right and turn left on a one way. Up in Boston you could, though whenever I did it my passengers thought it was illegal.

I always treated a right red arrow as a no turn on red. I figured they would have just put a normal red light if the rules were the same. I think I might go now if there isn't a cop around.
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Old 08-14-2008, 09:10 AM
 
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Don't you mean outside right turn lane? Inside lane should have always been good.
I meant 'inside' as being the left right turn lane, not the right right turn lane, which is on the outside, not the inside.

Now, who's on first??
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Old 08-14-2008, 09:42 AM
 
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patersonian -- sorry, reading back over what i wrote about your comment, i should have clarified more...a lot of natives here take a comment like that really personally. i thought you were making a general comment about traffic patterns being different. but a lot of times people who make a comment like that down here are comparing nc to their home state or favorite state with nc being on the short end of the stick. the way i should have finished that post would have been to ask you to clarify your comment and give you to the chance to speak up without being on the defensive.

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Old 08-14-2008, 09:48 AM
 
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smclarke -- i have a whole different kind of comment for you.

why should i have to "chill" because someone else can't get their butt in gear and GO when the way is clear??? i don't have all day to wait for other people to lollygag and daydream their way home nor do i have time to sit and wait at a clear traffic light just because someone else has decided NOT TO GO.

and i do find it enfuriating that in a thread where information has just been posted that clarifies a traffic rule, someone would post that they're going to ignore that rule and block traffic.

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Old 08-14-2008, 10:54 AM
 
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I meant 'inside' as being the left right turn lane, not the right right turn lane, which is on the outside, not the inside.

Now, who's on first??
I look at it from the turn's perspective, you're making a right, so the shortest right turn would be the inside, while the outside right turn would the the longer


What's on second?
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Old 08-14-2008, 03:56 PM
 
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Lt. Clendenin lays down the law on right turns. Solid red and right-arrow red mean the same thing, he says:Stop, look and then turn.
Thanks for clearing that up! I guess that explains why everyone turns right when they are faced with a red arrow. Still doesn't make sense to me.


I would even go so far as to say I remain unconvinced. Is Lt Clendenin the final authority? The DMV manual is inconclusive, which is a bit disappointing. On page 85, I see:
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Asteady red circular signal means “STOP.”
Unless there is a sign indicating ‘NO TURN
ON RED,” a right turn can be made after
coming to a”complete stop.
ok, that is what we all know and understand. But all they say about red arrows is:

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• Ared arrow means turning traffic must stop.
hmmm.... doesn't say anything about a turn being permissible if traffic is clear.
I would just like some definitive confirmation.


ok, found it!! I think... not even sure exactly what this is... but it is exactly what I was looking for:

Except when a sign is in place prohibiting a turn on red, vehicular traffic facing a steady CIRCULAR RED or RED ARROW signal indication may enter the intersection to turn right after stopping.

and the source of my confusion:

Although not specifically defined by the general statutes, a red light is implied to be either a CIRCULAR RED or a RED ARROW.

found this by searching the NCDOT website.


sorry for doubting you Lt Clendenin

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Old 08-06-2013, 06:19 AM
 
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When I was in traffic school, funded by the public school, here in NC in the early 2000s, the driving instructor told us explicitly that turning right on red was legal from both right turn lanes. Turning right on red in NC is illegal only if there is a sign saying "No turn on red".

Check the source:
[url=http://www.ncdot.gov/travel/roadrules/]NCDOT: Road Rules[/url]
"Right turns at a traffic signal with a red light are permitted after a complete stop, unless otherwise posted."
Simple as that.
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Old 08-06-2013, 06:54 AM
 
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When I was in traffic school, funded by the public school, here in NC in the early 2000s, the driving instructor told us explicitly that turning right on red was legal from both right turn lanes. Turning right on red in NC is illegal only if there is a sign saying "No turn on red".

Check the source:
NCDOT: Road Rules
"Right turns at a traffic signal with a red light are permitted after a complete stop, unless otherwise posted."
Simple as that.
Thanks, I've been wondering for these past 5 years.
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Old 08-06-2013, 07:00 AM
 
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Thanks, I've been wondering for these past 5 years.
Hope barndog wasn't behind you all those years.

Speaking of no turns at all at a light. Years ago when I used to have to use the providence and queens and queens intersection there was a sign that said no turns on red. Guess who always honked furiously behind me? Sorry, I'm not going to run a light for ya. (If no sign, then of course go when clear)
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