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Old 10-03-2008, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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Looks like this wont be over for a while

Citigroup accuses Wachovia of 'breach' - * HP | Right Headlines | Map - Charlotte Observer (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/112/story/229694.html - broken link)

I can only imagine that the judge will force Wachovia to sell itself to Citibank
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Old 10-03-2008, 09:49 AM
 
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Saw this one coming... it's going to get nasty.
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Old 10-03-2008, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Monroe, NC
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Looks like this wont be over for a while

Citigroup accuses Wachovia of 'breach' - * HP | Right Headlines | Map - Charlotte Observer (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/112/story/229694.html - broken link)

I can only imagine that the judge will force Wachovia to sell itself to Citibank
It looks like someone in Wachovia forgot to read the fine print when they were signing all those documents!
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Old 10-03-2008, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Yellow Brick Road
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No, this is not the problem it appears to be, IMHO. The Feds forced Wachovia to make a deal as they were going to seize them and shut them down. So then CITI stepped in and was going to use this as an opportunity to take advantage of bail out money to dump bad debt on Uncle Sam.

Once the SEC changed its guidelines on marking to market - value vs. fair value - this gave Wachovia a chance to work on their spreadsheets. And the Feds don't want to have to assume the bad debt that CITI was gonna dump on them as part of this deal. So I just don't see the Feds allowing the CITI deal to go thru/. I suspect Lehman could have been saved had the SEC changed their guidelines earlier and that is what makes me sick. Instead of trying to mitigate the "credit crisis" w/ some innovative strategies, Paulson's solution of dumping money into the system struck many of us as a bandaid that still was not going to really remediate the underlying marketing conditions (how we got to this point).

The truth is still not being told, altho I am noticing that some of the financial programs on TV are explaining things in more depth now . . . Most people do NOT understand the debacle w/ Fannie creating these toxic securities . . . and the assumption that buying them meant no probs since they were federally backed. Oh, I could go on and on but my point is . . . I believe the Feds see it is much to their advantage to back the Wach/WF deal, wh/ does not include having to back bad loans wh/ would have been written off w/ the CITI deal.

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Old 10-03-2008, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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It would be better for Wells to buy Wachovia for many reasons.

Citi would probably shut down a lot of branches.
Wells will more than likely expand or leave everything the same.

I'm hoping that Wells does buy so I can get an account there.
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Old 10-03-2008, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Huntersville
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Either way when we the benefits get dropped from Wachovia I'm going to suntrust!
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Old 10-03-2008, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Findlay, OH
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This reminds me of the Merchant of Venice. It appears Citibank is demanding its pound of flesh. If there is a Portia in Charlotte, please speak up now.
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Old 10-03-2008, 11:34 AM
 
Location: West, Southwest, East & Northeast
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Bob Steele, WB CEO, has a fudiciary responsibility to take the best deal for his shareholders. That is a CEO's number one responsibility - its shareholders.

If the Fed demands that WB take the Citi deal it will still require a vote by shareholders and I strongly suspect that WB's BOD would suggest voting against the Citi deal. Nevertheless, I strongly suspect that WB shareholders would vote against the Citi deal regardless of what the WB BOD suggests.

Citi can sue, but I really think the pressure on the Fed would be overwhelmingly against the Fed requiring WB's shareholders taking a worse deal. Lastly, with the WFC deal there is no Fed involvement, which is something the Fed should want.

The whole deal with Citi was forced and went down in a matter of mere hours. The Fed was just wanting take care of things at the speed of light, not caring about the true outcome and what is best for everyone.
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Old 10-03-2008, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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the problem is that the FDIC head said that they still fully support the Citi/Wachovia deal.

It wont matter anymore if Wachovia really did sign an exclusive agreement. Citibank will take Wachovia to court, and the judge will run in their favor
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Old 10-03-2008, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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Bank of America wins fight for LaSalle - World business - MSNBC.com

It will be the same outcome....hopefully not
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