Wiill Charlotte continue to get these Transplants? (Raleigh, Asheville: home, buy)

[BrianH1970]

Originally Posted by anifani821

MoreMoreMore . . . evidently, you have misunderstood why the natives get upset w/ newcomers. It is not so simple as "Yankees are bad." In fact, that is a stupid thing to assume. What upsets locals is that we did not send out an engraved invite saying "Come to paradise, where you can get cheap housing and lower taxes and the Perfect Life." Yet, we have newcomers show up b/c of the cheaper housing and lower taxes . . . and they EXPECT this "perfect life." Then they get upset and disparage the culture, our accents, the schools, WHATEVER . . . and the locals have no sympathy whatsoever, b/c we didn't beg people to come here to begin with.

That's a huge problem. If you leave your home state solely for money you probably stand a greater chance of being disappointed with your new surroundings. Doing it that way you're leaving your family behind, your friends behind, everything you knew and loved for very materialistic reasons. That's probably one of the very few times where you'll catch me saying that money can't buy you everything. If you trade away all that simply for cash, then you're better off looking to leave for a neighboring state where everything is within driving distance as opposed to another region of the country. You're just setting yourself up for a huge backfire.

When we did that freaky move-back-to-New-Jersey-just-to-move-back-here thing this summer, it was partially out of financial necessity. We did wind up becoming slave to a lifestyle that wasn't possible for us in New Jersey. Even downgrading wouldn't have been successful without one or both working a second job. I can easily admit as much. But I can also say that man...I really missed uptown Charlotte. I missed driving past the Lowes Motor Speedway where I caught some really good races. I missed the place and area we lived in. I missed living within half an hour of one of my closest friends. I missed hitting the Verizon Wireless, Bobcats Arena, Raleigh and Asheville venues for concerts. I kept thinking about the missed opportunities like seeing New York Rangers hockey games in Raleigh, trips to Grandfather Mountain, trips to Myrtle Beach, all of the stuff that we had yet to do. And then there's this strange intangible that I still can't put my finger on. For someone who gravitates to (and unfortunately at times tends to create) chaos, there's a calm, beautiful serenity here that just appeals to me. I'm not sure what the bigger payoff in moving back here was: regaining the lifestyle that the lower cost of living could afford us or everything else that I described (and then some) that makes living in the Charlotte region worth it. I'm not sure I could even choose.

In living here I never wanted to upset the apple cart, so to speak. If this is how it's done here, that's how I do it here. If you guys have Christmas lights in McAdenville, then I'm going to see them. If you're going to have a tree lighting for charity at the Lowes Speedway, I'm going to attend. If there's something that goes on in this area I want to be a part of it. When John McCain had his rally in Concord we made sure we went. I want to be a part of what you guys have, not force what I used to have onto you. I realized that what I gave up in some areas I more than made up for in others.

If we could miraculously afford in New Jersey what we could here, I think we'd probably still wind up thinking long and hard....and at times I wonder if we could actually leave. As much as I can see myself moving back to New Jersey someday, I can also see us spending the rest of our lives here and for reasons more numerous than just money.

[Palmetto Heel]

Originally Posted by johne482

I read two reports this morning that got me thinking about my subject title.
One stat was NY will lose 135,000 jobs during this crisis. Approx. 35,000 will come from the financial sector.The second prediction, from the head of the Builders Trade Union, suggested that NY will lose 35,000 additional jobs by 2010.His numbers look correct based on proposed projects that have now come to a stop.

I would THINK that this would have a profound effect on the migration to CLT by NYers as (a) How do they sell THEIR houses in order to move to CLT and (B) Out favorite topic...what makes them think they will get work in CLT?

On the other hand, many of these people will THINK that they will find a better, cheaper, more peaceful life by moving away from their problems in NY and relocating to CLT. Human nature isn't it??

What do you think?

JOHN

I think that:

a) Wannabe carpetbaggers will have a hard time selling their homes and will be unable to move to NC.

b) Those who do move will not find work.

[Palmetto Heel]

Originally Posted by moremoremore

Oh, and BTW, I'm a former attorney from NY that can't get any type of paralegal or legal secty or assistant job or any job from that matter...so my own personal feeling is that I'm not being hired bc I'm a NYer if you want my honest opinion

You're probably right. Please tell your friends!

[bandibadji]

The New Yorkers (NYC) people that I have met are those that didn't like Florida and didn't wish to move back to New York or those that weren't professional and just looking for no specific type job. Since Charlotte is as good if not better than most other cities for employment, I don't see any real dramatic changes due to the economy. Nationally, I think that there will be a slow down. Many people from the upper midwest and northeast that have been unemployed and wanting to continue their normal professions will probably wait until things improve. The Mexican situation seems to have halted. I suspect that we will continue to outpace other cities in growth but at a slower than usual level.

[theS5]

What will happen to all of the folks in Charlotte when Wells Fargo lays off thousands or when BOA moves jobs up to Merrill Lynch?

Originally Posted by johne482

I read two reports this morning that got me thinking about my subject title.
One stat was NY will lose 135,000 jobs during this crisis. Approx. 35,000 will come from the financial sector.The second prediction, from the head of the Builders Trade Union, suggested that NY will lose 35,000 additional jobs by 2010.His numbers look correct based on proposed projects that have now come to a stop.

I would THINK that this would have a profound effect on the migration to CLT by NYers as (a) How do they sell THEIR houses in order to move to CLT and (B) Out favorite topic...what makes them think they will get work in CLT?

On the other hand, many of these people will THINK that they will find a better, cheaper, more peaceful life by moving away from their problems in NY and relocating to CLT. Human nature isn't it??

What do you think?

JOHN

[Palmetto Heel]

Originally Posted by theS5

What will happen to all of the folks in Charlotte when Wells Fargo lays off thousands or when BOA moves jobs up to Merrill Lynch?

Mass exodus? I can't wait to see it.

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by moremoremore

Ugh. I'm so sick of generalities. A person in any state in the US has the right to move to any other state...and not all "Yankees" are bad, and not all Southerners are giving out that famed southern hospitality. It goes both ways, and if someone is bothered by the fact that there are too many NYers here for you, you are free to move to NY...no problem. I think people project their own insecurities and blame situations on the fact that oh, this must be a NYer or Yankee showing me how it's really done...how about it's just the pace that NYers are used to working out and it's not condescending...

Oh, and BTW, I'm a former attorney from NY that can't get any type of paralegal or legal secty or assistant job or any job from that matter...so my own personal feeling is that I'm not being hired bc I'm a NYer if you want my honest opinion (just that...an opinion)...but of course, there really could be no worse time to job hunt than now...so enough with the schpeal about NYers coming here and wanting to educate on show you how it done. People are people and we all have distinct personalities...

I probably should have added, earlier, that I met plenty of really nice NYers & people fron North Jersey over the years. However, when people are rude & crude in their criticism of an area, that's when the locals get annoyed.

I'm west of Charlotte in Cleveland County &, frankly the people couldn't be nicer. I'm not saying that because nothing has gone wrong. It has.

Ani is right about the job thing. Offer to do pro bono. The economy has gone down the tubes. If you need a job, just take any old thing. I have a college degree & well over 20 years of tech experience. I'll take anything that's legal that comes along. When the economy gets better, you can find something better.

[5kidsmama]

now if I could just get a good cannoli

[monkeyboy]

It is only recently that NC has seen a huge growth rate, mainly fueled by people fleeing the high cost of living in other areas. With the coming deflationary cycle, I think this will slow down considerably. NC is fine, but the bigger northern cities have much more to offer.

[CouponJack]

Originally Posted by monkeyboy

NC is fine, but the bigger northern cities have much more to offer.

Comments like this above and others like "wannabe carpetbaggers" really stir up trouble unfortunately.


Brian definitely made some really good points in his post. If you want to move here, it can't be just for financial gain or you're going to most likely be unhappy.