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CMS teachers disciplined because of Facebook pages | WCNC.com | Local News for Charlotte, North Carolina | Local News (http://www.wcnc.com/news/local/stories/wcnc-111108-mw-facebook.1a2df67aa.html - broken link)
I have mixed feelings on this topic.
My first question is why in the world they wouldn't make that stuff private. I have pretty tame pictures on my Facebook and I still keep it private. I am only "friends" with people I am actually friends with in real life. I am (guessing) that this could have been avoided with something as simple as that, then strangers (or in this case, parents) would not see what legal/illegal/inappropriate, etc activities they are up to.
It does bother me that they are being disciplined for their personal lives. If it is not effecting the school or their teaching abilities I do not think they should be punished for their actions out of work <within reason-social drinking to me is within reason>
Welllllllll . . . I have problems w/ this. I agree that it is stupid to post this type of thing in a public arena (and I, too, wonder what possesses people to do it!!!)
And you have to wonder about someone's maturity level and also their judgment - if they are posting negative statements about their job (and photos showing possibility inappropriate behavior) on a website.
However, it troubles me that an employee - ANY employee in ANY business - could have his/her job put in jeopardy b/c of behavior that is totally outside the realm of where they actually work.
So I don't know. I would definitely be upset if I were a parent and saw this mess on Facebook - not so much b/c of the things that were said - but b/c it shows such bad judgment and immaturity.
ETA: but for the school board to take action . . . just seems invasive and troubling that they can do that. I mean - no child has been harmed, LOL.
Just not sure how I feel about this, except to say - be careful what you make public.
I am concerned b/c people can post stuff just to be wacky and crazy w/ their friends . . . and how many times have we all said something negative about our bosses, our classmates, our coworkers, our job in general? Yes, perhaps dumb to say it where others can read it . . . but so we spout off about our idiot client, our stupid coworkers, our monstrous boss . . . as long as it was not a personal assault or libelous . . . I just have problems w/ being held responsible for stuff that may be more or less just letting off steam.
So a teacher complains that she is teaching in a ghetto school. Maybe she is!!!!! Or maybe she is just spouting off after a particularly bad day.
I can honestly say . . . if one of my employees posted that I am hell to work with and they hate their job, etc. and I saw it . . . I would possibly remember that comment when it came time for a raise . . . but otherwise, the person would never know I read it (or heard about it, for that matter). After all, I have surely said the same thing (or at least thought it) about people I have worked for/with.
Everyone has to be so PC these days. Not sure if it is proper to call this a morals violation - something posted on Facebook showing teachers drinking, for example. As long as they were not arrested for public intoxication . . . just not sure about all this.
According to the district’s code of conduct, teachers can be punished for "behaving in any unethical or lascivious conduct at any time; if there is a reasonable and adverse relationship between the conduct and the continuing ability of the employee to perform any of his/her professional functions in an effective manner."
What you do in private does matter, especially in this type of situation. I can't imagine students or parents having any respect for this teacher any longer. She/He obviously has no respect for them.
I don't even understand why people go into professions and stay when they hate them so much.
Dawn
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Originally Posted by anifani821
Welllllllll . . . I have problems w/ this. I agree that it is stupid to post this type of thing in a public arena (and I, too, wonder what possesses people to do it!!!)
And you have to wonder about someone's maturity level and also their judgment - if they are posting negative statements about their job (and photos showing possibility inappropriate behavior) on a website.
However, it troubles me that an employee - ANY employee in ANY business - could have his/her job put in jeopardy b/c of behavior that is totally outside the realm of where they actually work.
So I don't know. I would definitely be upset if I were a parent and saw this mess on Facebook - not so much b/c of the things that were said - but b/c it shows such bad judgment and immaturity.
ETA: but for the school board to take action . . . just seems invasive and troubling that they can do that. I mean - no child has been harmed, LOL.
Just not sure how I feel about this, except to say - be careful what you make public.
I understand what you are saying, Dawn, and agree that this is immature behavior and certainly not what one would call "professional" behavior, but in reading that statement about "unethical or lascivious behavior" - I just don't think making statements about a school being "ghetto" or teaching "chitluns" or drinking a beer falls under that. I think being arrested and FOUND GUILTY for public intoxication, nudity, assault or embezzlement would fall under those terms - but not some statements and pictures on a website.
I think everywhere DH has ever worked has had some kind of morality clause in the hiring agreement. Employers are now doing extensive background checks, credit reports, checking on Facebook and such sites as part of the hiring process so it isn't surprising that the standards extend after employment is granted. I respect the right of employers to hire and retain people they feel fit the image and quality of the business they are trying to promote, as long as they don't discriminate illegally.
I think the issue is that these young teachers are immature and need further training before being placed in a classroom. They lack the professionalism required to maintain the respect of the students as well as the parents. They also lack the common sense to ensure that their private lives are indeed PRIVATE and instead advertise their indescretions in the public domain.
Certainly, the students and parents deserve more than teachers who insult, degrade or openly declare their hatred for their students and job. It sounds like firing such teachers would be a win-win for all involved parties.
I think everywhere DH has ever worked has had some kind of morality clause in the hiring agreement. Employers are now doing extensive background checks, credit reports, checking on Facebook and such sites as part of the hiring process so it isn't surprising that the standards extend after employment is granted. I respect the right of employers to hire and retain people they feel fit the image and quality of the business they are trying to promote, as long as they don't discriminate illegally.
I think the issue is that these young teachers are immature and need further training before being placed in a classroom. They lack the professionalism required to maintain the respect of the students as well as the parents. They also lack the common sense to ensure that their private lives are indeed PRIVATE and instead advertise their indescretions in the public domain.
Certainly, the students and parents deserve more than teachers who insult, degrade or openly declare their hatred for their students and job. It sounds like firing such teachers would be a win-win for all involved parties.
Very, very, VERY, well said....
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