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Old 12-09-2008, 08:24 PM
 
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CMS cuts graduation requirements - * Home Page Mapping | CharlotteObserver.com (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/597/story/405350.html - broken link)

I worry we aren't really doing anybody any favors
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Not at all, Loves. Just making the generations dumber...

My son has a Korean foreign exchange student living with him for this school year. She says that in Korea, she goes to school from 8am to 10pm., 6 days a week. Here, she is going to a charter school and after her American classes, she then does Korean schoolwork sent to her from her family. In addition to that, she is studying piano & flute with my DIL. She is not the slightest bit stressed doing all of that....and, she is a lot smarter than almost any other 16 year old that I know!
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:45 PM
 
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Yeah, I saw that in the paper. I like the idea of giving students more freedom their senior year, and I think it'll probably improve the electives students do end up taking, since there won't be as many students who are only in the courses to fulfill the requirement.

But I wonder what the likelihood is that students will actually take advantage of it. If students are required to take 4 fewer classes, what happens with that time? Are they required to still fill it with something, or can they "underload" like in college? I also hope the district provides enough affordable, interesting, and applicable opportunities for these internships and "other options" (or "study abroad"... really?).
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Old 12-09-2008, 09:12 PM
 
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So a full load is 8 credits per year and after 4 years you graduate with 32 credits... right?

So now a full load will get you enough credits (24) to graduate after only 3 years.

Are they just hoping that a fair number of students will choose to get out after 3 years which will lower the overall
number of students in the system and lower total expenses as well as cost per student?
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Old 12-09-2008, 09:25 PM
 
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Since it is just electives, I don't think it's a big deal. Most highschoolers are going to benefit more from working, doing an internship, etc. than from taking electives that are usually chosen based on how easy they are. The students that are "over achievers" will still take the foreign language electives or other electives. The other ones would just be taking goofy stuff like art anyways, so I don't think it's a big deal. Also, in my case, foreign language in high school was useless because they didn't have the languages I was interested in. When I think back to what I learned in high school, there is no way it should have taken 3 1/2 years (I graduated early). If you took away the mandatory study halls, and blow-off classes like pottery that only hurt my GPA, and phys ed which was a joke, I could've been out in less than 3 years and would have preferred it that way.
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Old 12-10-2008, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Charlotte area, NC
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Charlotte Mecklenburg has been dumbing down the curriculum, etc. since the early 70s if not earlier!
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Old 12-10-2008, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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I hope that foreign languages aren't electives!!

Aren't they mandatory?? Depending upon your chosen vocation, the language should be mandatory!!

That was the way that it was when I went to school...(and, I graduated fluent in Spanish)....although I lost it when I moved south and did not use it for 20+ years.
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Old 12-10-2008, 07:44 AM
 
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Instead of lowering the number of credits required they could have just decided to award credits for kids who do work-study programs, internships or study abroad. Wouldn't that have been the better way to go rather than lower the standard for everyone?

It's pretty dumb to eliminate the foreign language credits as most colleges require it.
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Old 12-10-2008, 07:56 AM
 
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I hope that foreign languages aren't electives!!

Aren't they mandatory?? Depending upon your chosen vocation, the language should be mandatory!!

That was the way that it was when I went to school...(and, I graduated fluent in Spanish)....although I lost it when I moved south and did not use it for 20+ years.
They are electives, however many colleges will require you to have them.

That's the thing, I think they should only be mandatory depending on your chosen vocation. And how many high schoolers know their chosen vocation? Highschools need to focus on actually teaching proper English to these kids before they work on other languages, lol.
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Old 12-10-2008, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Right where I want to be.
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They are electives, however many colleges will require you to have them.

That's the thing, I think they should only be mandatory depending on your chosen vocation. And how many high schoolers know their chosen vocation? Highschools need to focus on actually teaching proper English to these kids before they work on other languages, lol.
I think 2 yrs of foreign language was a requirement (the 'elective' part was in choosing which foreign language) for graduation because it is a requirement for college, regardless of major. I thought it was a state requirement though...???

I do agree that we need to focus more on basic English as well (not that I claim to be an expert from the obvious number of grammatical and punctuation errors that you will find in my posts....LOL).
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