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Old 12-30-2008, 11:43 AM
 
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Has anyone noticed the streetcar tracks being laid near CPCC!!! If Charlotte gets the extra $$$ from the feds, will the city speed up light rail and streetcar construction?
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Old 12-30-2008, 11:46 AM
 
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Has anyone noticed the streetcar tracks being laid near CPCC!!! If Charlotte gets the extra $$$ from the feds, will the city speed up light rail and streetcar construction?
I would definitely think so. In a time where recruiting new business is the top priority, established infrustructure is a major asset.
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Old 12-30-2008, 12:03 PM
 
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I would definitely think so. In a time where recruiting new business is the top priority, established infrustructure is a major asset.
I have started a poll about the 1 cent transit tax debate here:
1 cent transit tax

Feel free to vote!!!
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Old 12-30-2008, 12:04 PM
 
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Was watching channel 16 on TW Cable (Char-Meck Govt Access) and they said that 5,000,000...yes...5 million passengers rode the 1st year (ending Nov 24, 2008) and had an on time percentage rate of 99.5% well exceeding their expectations in ridership.

Lets hope that helps us with funding for future lines!
Any idea how many unique riders make up those 5 million passenger rides? By that I mean on average are there 250,000 unique riders who ride the light rail at approximately 20 times a year each or are their 25,000 people who are riding it 200 times a year or something like that? Obviously there are people who only use it once in a while, but I am trying to get a sense of how many people use it and how many use it on a regualr basis. The 5 million passenger rides is impressive but it would be cool to have a breakdown of that number.

Also, have you noticed any impact on traffic congestion or is it negligible at this point?

~ NRG
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Old 12-30-2008, 12:17 PM
 
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Any idea how many unique riders make up those 5 million passenger rides? By that I mean on average are there 250,000 unique riders who ride the light rail at approximately 20 times a year each or are their 25,000 people who are riding it 200 times a year or something like that? Obviously there are people who only use it once in a while, but I am trying to get a sense of how many people use it and how many use it on a regualr basis. The 5 million passenger rides is impressive but it would be cool to have a breakdown of that number.

Also, have you noticed any impact on traffic congestion or is it negligible at this point?

~ NRG
Much like a freeway, train riders are repeat customers. I-40 between Wake and Durham county has the same 100,000 a day plus vehicle commuters. The same goes for the 16,000 per day train riders. Train riders in both directions are counted just like freeway commuters in both directions are counted. The biggest difference between train riders and freeway commuters is that train riders are 100% local traffic. Freeway numbers are inflated by hundreds of folks that are just passing by. Freight traffic also accounts for a large portion of freeway numbers.

It is a mistake to try to compare a freeway or any road to train travel because both have very different roles and designs. Light rail is only for moving people. Freeways move everything!!! I have even seen houses going down the road LOL!!!

Take my word for it NRG, if Raleigh (or any city) is interested in moving large numbers of people without roads, rail is the way to go!!! A fully built light rail system in Charlotte would carry nearly 30 million passenger trips a year!!! That is 30 million trips off of Charlotte's local roads!!! That's big!!!

Here is a video of a crowded LYNX train on Thankgiving morning to show you just how many potential cars were taken off of the local streets that morning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDu52...e=channel_page

If you noticed, the streets parallel to the train were completely deserted on this morning. They would not have been if the train did not exist.

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Old 12-30-2008, 12:39 PM
 
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^^ I appreciate your response, but it doesn't quite get to what I am asking. FWIW, nobody is trying to compare highway traffic to light rail traffic ... at least I am not making that comparison anyway.

I'm just looking for some insight on the break down of how many unique riders the 5,000,000 million "passenger rides" represents. Obviously a lot of it is repeat riders day after day going to work ect... (which is a great thing) I'm just trying to get a sense of approximately how many unique people make up the aggregate of 5,000,000 passenger rides. Are there plus or minus 20,000 repeat riders daily ect....
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Old 12-30-2008, 02:18 PM
 
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^^ I appreciate your response, but it doesn't quite get to what I am asking. FWIW, nobody is trying to compare highway traffic to light rail traffic ... at least I am not making that comparison anyway.

I'm just looking for some insight on the break down of how many unique riders the 5,000,000 million "passenger rides" represents. Obviously a lot of it is repeat riders day after day going to work ect... (which is a great thing) I'm just trying to get a sense of approximately how many unique people make up the aggregate of 5,000,000 passenger rides. Are there plus or minus 20,000 repeat riders daily ect....
It was only estimated that about 6,000 - 8,000 people per day would ride it. It has averaged 14,000 per day and that is including weekends when ridership is not as heavy. It has been a BIGGER success here in Charlotte than they expected. Looking forward to more lines opening. Don't have the real answer to your question...sorry.
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Old 12-30-2008, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Uptown CLT (4th Ward)
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Has anyone noticed the streetcar tracks being laid near CPCC!!! If Charlotte gets the extra $$$ from the feds, will the city speed up light rail and streetcar construction?
The street cars are suppose to run from Uptown to the hospitals...right?
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Old 12-30-2008, 02:32 PM
 
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Anything around WT Harris & Sugarcreek area in the future?
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Old 12-30-2008, 02:35 PM
 
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I rode the LYNX once. I didn't mind it, but I didn't like it, either. I had to walk several blocks through sketchy, unlit areas to get where I was going.
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