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01-02-2008, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by the 7 oh 4
Maybe I came across wrong. Do I want higher taxes NO. Am I willing to pay higher taxes YES!
I was talking about people in general. Not me. People want something for nothing. I was not raised that way. I was taught you get what you pay for!
I live directly across the street from a CMPD sub-station and feel VERY VERY safe and I live Uptown. Compare the crime statisticts Uptown (28202 ZIP) and it is probably one of the safest areas. Not only do we have police riding around in cars, but also on bikes and foot patrol Uptown so I feel 3 times more protected.
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28202 isn't that great. See below.

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01-02-2008, 01:47 PM
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Where in the world did you get that chart? It makes no sense.
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01-02-2008, 01:49 PM
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Lucky and blessed :)
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Originally Posted by ncisgreat
Where in the world did you get that chart? It makes no sense.
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I agree, it's like a part is missing or something. There is no chart explaining what those numbers actually represent???
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01-02-2008, 01:57 PM
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"Ad astra per aspera"
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Originally Posted by lovesMountains
I agree, it's like a part is missing or something. There is no chart explaining what those numbers actually represent???
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loves - All those numbers represent is the rate in an individual zip code compared to the U.S. average. For instance 239 represents a ratio of 2.39 times the national average in that category which is standardized at 100. Hope that helps! 
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01-02-2008, 02:00 PM
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Lucky and blessed :)
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Originally Posted by TheEmissary
A large part of the perception of crime has to do with the syndrome of "victimology". Your attitude can determine the outcome of a crime.
If a burglar broke into my home, given my less than Martha Stewart housekeeping, he might be in for a real shock!
If I caught the burglar, I might not call the police. Marketing opportunities abound!!
Should I dust off my copy of the Dummies Book "Selling Human Organs for Fun and Profit on Ebay"?
With the freezer in the garage fairly empty and a good meat grinder, I may never have to buy those annoying 4-packs of "9 Lives Sliced Beef and Gravy" for the cats again!  Yes Folks, I saw Sweeney Todd on Broadway in 1979, so I'm an "expert".
Think of the poor woman in Washington who was highjacked in her older model Mercedes with the power windows that redefined the word "power". The guy's arm with a gun was caught in the window- she got real nervous and gunned her car with the highjacker being dragged along. She "decided" to open the window while she was doing 70 on the Beltway! You can guess the results!
I worked for the Post Office and started my career in an area that was crime-ridden. Our cars were broken into all the time. The cops could hardly be bothered to come down to take reports so we took matters into our own hands. A guy was caught breaking into a car and one of the mailhandlers punched his lights out and then ran him over with a Postal Truck. Another was jumped on by a 350 lb clerk, until he was coughing up blood! We left him there. I guess all of those posters hanging in the building with pictures of McGruff, the crime dog urging us to "take a "Bite out of Crime" had an effect!
Wth the ease of being able to buy a handgun down here compared to NJ where even the governor would have a hard time getting a handgun permit, I tend not to worry about crime. The criminals perhaps, should be worried about me tho'.  
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Emissary, I am laughing outloud over here! This is the most entertaining post of the day for sure
Like you, more folks are taking steps to protect themselves by obtaining handgun permits. Lately some criminals are coming to understand that when they actually get shot at themselves.
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01-02-2008, 02:26 PM
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"Ad astra per aspera"
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Originally Posted by lovesMountains
Emissary, I am laughing outloud over here! This is the most entertaining post of the day for sure
Like you, more folks are taking steps to protect themselves by obtaining handgun permits. Lately some criminals are coming to understand that when they actually get shot at themselves.
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lovesMountains - I've always found that humor can have a "disarming" effect on people! I was looking at an old "Farside" calendar and thought the picture of the deer driving an SUV, with dead hunters strapped to the hood was quite amusing!  
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01-02-2008, 02:47 PM
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Life is a Journey
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uhhhh . . . I do statistical research daily and this chart is totally off. Perhaps if I knew the parameters, I would understand better. For what time period? Is this assigning a risk factor based on national average?
Without understanding the parameters, I would look at this chart and read it as my zip code has had 165 murders (in what time period - who knows).
I read what Emissary posted about formulating numbers based on national average, but I cannot fathom how the few murders in my zip code would translate into that type of figure.
Amploud - please reference the parameters on this chart. and your source.
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01-02-2008, 02:48 PM
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Life is a Journey
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Originally Posted by TheEmissary
lovesMountains - I've always found that humor can have a "disarming" effect on people! I was looking at an old "Farside" calendar and thought the picture of the deer driving an SUV, with dead hunters strapped to the hood was quite amusing!  
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That cartoon happens to be one of my favorites, LOL!!!
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01-02-2008, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by carolina_guy
I just have two points to make:
1) I would not live in Steele Creek although many on here say some parts are safe. Steele Creek is HARDLY representative of Charlotte area crime and merely denotes areas of Charlotte that are more crime ridden than others. Like I've said before, I live in a virtually 0 crime area and sleep very peacefully at night.
2)Why don't you move to a safer area of Charlotte or the surrounding areas? 300k will go a long ways in Huntersville and the Lake Norman area as well as parts of Union County and Fort Mill/Rock Hill. Why continue to make yourself miserable in Steele Creek when it is hit so much with crime? Only you can make the decision to improve your quality of life. Quit bashing all of Charlotte because you choose to live in the area you do. The way I see it, you didn't do the proper research or else you wouldn't have ended up in Steele Creek.
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Like I said we cannot take an $80,000 loss on our house and we will have to wait it out. I do not feel all of Charlotte is bad, I hear that North Charlotte is great as is Fort Mill. We visited here a few times before moving and talked with a lot of locals, all who will tell you the same thing, crime was not nearly as bad here (in Steele Creek) a year ago when we moved.
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01-02-2008, 03:28 PM
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"Ad astra per aspera"
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Originally Posted by anifani821
uhhhh . . . I do statistical research daily and this chart is totally off. Perhaps if I knew the parameters, I would understand better. For what time period? Is this assigning a risk factor based on national average?
Without understanding the parameters, I would look at this chart and read it as my zip code has had 165 murders (in what time period - who knows).
I read what Emissary posted about formulating numbers based on national average, but I cannot fathom how the few murders in my zip code would translate into that type of figure.
Amploud - please reference the parameters on this chart. and your source.
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ani - all of the numbers in those boxes are just ratios and not the actual number of types of crime in a given zipcode. For instance the murder number in zipcode 28202 is 113. That would mean that the murder rate is 113/100 or 1.13 times as bad as if you averaged the whole country's crime rate into a zipcode with a similar population.
The zipcode 28278 has a murder rate of 6/100 or 6% as bad as a similar sized zipcode averaged to the US murder rate in a same sized area. Which would tend to indicate you'd probably be more likely to be struck by lightning than be murdered!
For those three city rates at the end of the chart all it would mean is
Charlotte had a overall crime rate that is more than double that of NYC - 239/114 or 2.096 times as bad as NYC. I hope I explained it better this time! 
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