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Old 02-18-2009, 02:58 PM
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The HMO has to ultimately answer to the people to decide to use them. If people generally hated and badmouthed Blue Cross, how long do you think they would be in business. The health care plans also have to answer to the government.

In a socialized health care system run by the government, who do they answer to?
God, just what we need, MORE big government
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:09 PM
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If you honestly don't understand the reasons why, I seriously suggest you do some research - there is a HUGE difference between Norway and the USA. PLEASE don't be in such a hurry to give up the freedom living in a democracy affords you. Socialized medicine in America will be a very bad thing.
Yep. It would be a bad thing for the greedy insurance agents and the doctors and hospitals that thrive on getting you to pay $10.00 for a Tylenol tablet (and another $5.00 for the water to drink it with!). The greed in the health care industry is only matched by the greed in the financial industry. So, now, I have the freedom to die without medical care because I cannot afford it. Great. That is something worth ..uh...living for???

I know Norway well. My grandmother was born/raised there. It is my heritage. No, it is not a perfect place...nowhere is. But, at least you don't have to worry about whether or not you will have to mortgage your house (or sell it in a lot of cases) to pay for your mother's health care.

And, the taxes in England, Brian, are no worse than the taxes here. The difference between the two are that we have a lot of small taxes...add them up and they equal (or exceed, in some cases) the V.A.T. tax levied there. My friend that lives there is permantly disabled. He has had his house remodeled to accommodate his disability...including an elevator installed so that he could go upstairs to bed since he cannot walk up the stairs... (for free), all taxes & mortgages paid in addition to his continuing and extensive health care and medicinal costs. In addition to all of that, his wife receives a stipend to stay at home from work to care for him and his son receives and additional stipend to go to University (where the tuition is free, by the way) since his father is disabled. The only thing that they are supposed to pay for is the dorm (residence) which, as I understand it, is free for them since Dad is disabled. Add to that is the monthly stipend to go where ever they wish to have any kind of additional health care or additional hospitalization done as necessary.

Sorry. There are no programs here that equal that....or, come close. And, theirs is a very free, democratic society.
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:17 PM
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PLEASE don't be in such a hurry to give up the freedom living in a democracy affords you. Socialized medicine in America will be a very bad thing.
Democracy in America? It's slowing fading away in existence, we've become a plutocracy.

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Old 02-18-2009, 03:30 PM
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Democracy in America? It's slowing fading away in existence, we've become a plutocracy.
Yep, and having socialized medicine will just be one more nail in the coffin
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