Charlotte:struggling to keep our identity (Dallas: to live in, vs, moving)

[NYC1DAY]

Originally Posted by anifani821

The people who have moved into Manhattan HAVE TO BE WEALTHY to afford it. And as far as newcomers who have "changed" Manhattan - those are more often FOREIGNERS than SOUTHERNERS.

As far as Charlotte changing, I predict the growth is coming to a screeching halt and thank God it is. We have a strong workforce; we need more businesses. Bigger is not necessarily BETTER and our infrastructure is already stressed.

The only good thing I can see out of the Banking debacle here is that now that we are not going to be promoted as "the second largest banking center in the South," perhaps people will slow down the migration here.

NYC has transplants from everywhere. All of over the U.S., every country and SOUTHERNERS

IMO, bigger is better but I understand if others dont think so. Would it kill Charlotte to grow a little bit and get some diversity. That is one of things that make places like nyc so great. THEY HAVE DIVERSITY.

And no Charlotte is not the second largest banking city in the south
It is the second largest banking city in the whole united states behind nyc

[NYC1DAY]

Originally Posted by Akhenaton06

I disagree. It will still be there in some form or another. As much emphasis as we put on the Northern transplants, most people migrating to metro Charlotte are still native Southerners. I'm more likely to run into someone here originally from Charleston or Winston-Salem than someone from Jersey.

which is EXACTLY what i just said

you are arguing with me when i agreed with what you said

[NYC1DAY]

Originally Posted by mullman

One person's 'small' is another's 'just right'.

Enjoy 10013, when are you headed out?
[your status]

thanks for the complement.

i will enjoy my zip to the fullest.

[Akhenaton06]

Originally Posted by NYC1DAY

which is EXACTLY what i just said

you are arguing with me when i agreed with what you said

You made it sound as though Charlotte's Southern identity will totally disappear over time. I don't believe it will. At its core, it will still be Southern.

[NYC1DAY]

Originally Posted by Akhenaton06

You made it sound as though Charlotte's Southern identity will totally disappear over time. I don't believe it will. At its core, it will still be Southern.

charlottes southern identity will slowly dissapear over time

but it will ALWAYS slightly be there

[anifani821]

Originally Posted by NYC1DAY

charlottes southern identity will slowly dissapear over time

but it will ALWAYS slightly be there

Well, gee, thanx for adding so much to the discussion.

[anifani821]

Originally Posted by NYC1DAY

NYC has transplants from everywhere. All of over the U.S., every country and SOUTHERNERS

IMO, bigger is better but I understand if others dont think so. Would it kill Charlotte to grow a little bit and get some diversity. That is one of things that make places like nyc so great. THEY HAVE DIVERSITY.

And no Charlotte is not the second largest banking city in the south
It is the second largest banking city in the whole united states behind nyc

What you are writing does not even make sense. Of course NYC has people who have moved there from all over the country; in fact, all over the world.

Please define DIVERSITY. Does diversity only mean that the caucasian population is in the minority? I thought diversity means that people from many backgrounds, cultures and ethnicities live in one area. Seeing as how Charlotte's caucasian population is about 50% . . . that means other ethnicities make up the other 50%. And that is not DIVERSE enuff for you?

AND NO - Charlotte is no longer the second largest banking city in the USA. Get your facts straight.

[Tarheelhombre]

Originally Posted by mullman

Interesting...but NC is definitely not mid-Atlantic.

Wrong, actually NC is smack dab the geographic center of the U.S. Atlantic Coast, midway between the southern tip of Florida and the northern border of Maine/Canada. By the very definition, NC is Mid-Atlantic. Thus, many meteorologists, government agencies, and companies refer to NC as part of the Mid-Atlantic region. That being said, it is also part of the South, but so is Virginia and many refer to VA as the Mid-Atlantic also. Granted, the Mid-Atlantic moniker is much more popular in the Triangle and NE North Carolina than it is in Charlotte and southern NC.

[Tarheelhombre]

A 2003 Vanderbilt study found that North Carolina had one of the highest rates of declining Southern identity. I am one who is born in NC, but definitely not a Southerner:

A decade of research distilled by Vanderbilt University suggests the number of proud Southerners is declining, with some rejecting the label of "Southerner" while the idea of what a Southerner might be is being diluted by newcomers.

In the study, males tended to have a higher denial rate (9.2 percent) than females (6.2 percent). Whites backed away marginally more (5 percent) than blacks (4 percent) but not as much as Asians and Native Americans (9 percent) or Hispanics (19 percent).

Between 1991 and 2001, those living in the South who think of themselves as Southern declined 7.4 percent, from about 78 percent to 70 percent, according to Vanderbilt sociologist Larry Griffin. The states with the strongest identity were Arkansas, Tennessee, Alabama, Kentucky and Louisiana.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1032671/posts

[anifani821]

Originally Posted by Tarheelhombre

A 2003 Vanderbilt study found that North Carolina had one of the highest rates of declining Southern identity. I am one who is born in NC, but definitely not a Southerner:

A decade of research distilled by Vanderbilt University suggests the number of proud Southerners is declining, with some rejecting the label of "Southerner" while the idea of what a Southerner might be is being diluted by newcomers.

In the study, males tended to have a higher denial rate (9.2 percent) than females (6.2 percent). Whites backed away marginally more (5 percent) than blacks (4 percent) but not as much as Asians and Native Americans (9 percent) or Hispanics (19 percent).

Between 1991 and 2001, those living in the South who think of themselves as Southern declined 7.4 percent, from about 78 percent to 70 percent, according to Vanderbilt sociologist Larry Griffin. The states with the strongest identity were Arkansas, Tennessee, Alabama, Kentucky and Louisiana.


Southern identity grows less assertive

Thank you so much for finding that study. I really appreciate it. That is exactly what I was hoping to get - some real evidence that we are losing our identity here - and a clear statement that people don't even know what it means to be Southern anymore.