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Old 05-06-2009, 02:06 PM
 
Location: State of Being
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I had someone tell me that the numbers were manipulated by the PD now lumping crimes together... I have no idea what that means. SO I am skeptical.
I agree - stats can always be manipulated. But that murder rate - I am w/ Carolina Blue on that - don't see how it could be manipulated.
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Old 05-06-2009, 02:06 PM
 
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Weedy and Robin - You all are on to something very interesting. This Topic seems to really fire up
the story makers and non-believers.

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Old 05-06-2009, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Crown Town
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I had someone tell me that the numbers were manipulated by the PD now lumping crimes together... I have no idea what that means. SO I am skeptical.
The last time stats were released one of the news stations asked Monroe what he thought about people who suggest something funny is going on. I loved his answer…”Some people just like to complain. The same people who complained when the numbers were high, are now complaining that the numbers are too low.”

Keep in mind this is the same guy who did wonders in Richmond. Remember, those folks were very upset when he decided to come here. It’s not like he doesn’t have a track record for achieving these types of improvements.
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Old 05-06-2009, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Waxhaw, NC
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The last time stats were released one of the news stations asked Monroe what he thought about people who suggest something funny is going on. I loved his answer…”Some people just like to complain. The same people who complained when the numbers were high, are now complaining that the numbers are too low.”

Keep in mind this is the same guy who did wonders in Richmond. Remember, those folks were very upset when he decided to come here. It’s not like he doesn’t have a track record for achieving these types of improvements.

Well...I will be absolutely THRILLED if he can get the crime under control here!! :-)
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Old 05-07-2009, 09:33 AM
 
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The last time stats were released one of the news stations asked Monroe what he thought about people who suggest something funny is going on. I loved his answer…”Some people just like to complain. The same people who complained when the numbers were high, are now complaining that the numbers are too low.”

Keep in mind this is the same guy who did wonders in Richmond. Remember, those folks were very upset when he decided to come here. It’s not like he doesn’t have a track record for achieving these types of improvements.
It must be those Charlotte Observer bloggers/posters that always want to complain about something. I swear, those people's sole existance in life is to be miserable. How sad!
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Old 05-07-2009, 10:30 AM
 
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Well, in my neighbourhood, the community police officers have taken a "no tolerance" stand. When thug-people tried to move back in, the police were THERE. watching, patrolling, making their lives difficult. It appears that they have moved out again. When we had gangs try to take over, they established license checkpoints at night and verified that the people coming in/going out were residents. They have been so much more proactive. I have always been a fan of my community police officers, but, now, it seems as though they have so much more authority. I am very proud/happy for them!

what area do you live in?
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Old 05-07-2009, 10:39 AM
 
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you know what amuses me the most?

charlotte has crime but not as much as the murder rates chicago has... they are on the 35th child murdered due to uprising in gangs..

charlotte crimes are like "toddler" compared to chicago's
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Old 05-07-2009, 10:57 AM
 
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you know what amuses me the most?

charlotte has crime but not as much as the murder rates chicago has... they are on the 35th child murdered due to uprising in gangs..

charlotte crimes are like "toddler" compared to chicago's
I listened to a report this morning about that very subject - children who have been murdered in CHI (was that on CNN, I think?)

That is why I say the homicide rate is the one statistic that stands out - you can't manipulate how many people got killed. Shoplifting is not a violent crime. Violent crime is what concerns most of us.
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Old 05-07-2009, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Let me tell you something interesting I read the other day, in regards to the rising shoplifting stats (I'm really not trying to make light of such a serious topic, but I did have to chuckle just a bit when I read this). Also, my disclaimer is that I read this in a local magazine while I was waiting to see the doctor--I'm not claiming to know that this is for sure true.

As someone mentioned, of course it makes sense that more people will resort to shoplifting during a time of economic crisis. But I read that the rising demographic population of shoplifters is, get this: middle-aged, upper-middle-class white women! Apparently, over the past year, a lot of the high-end stores & boutiques have caught an unreal number of women shoplifting things like cocktail dresses and nice accessories! Huh...I'd think the embarrassment of getting caught stealing might be a little worse than showing up to a fancy party with--**gasp**--last season's accessories!!

Now, I don't know how these gals managed to walk away with the merchandise, since I thought stores lock behind glass or tag a lot of the expensive stuff, but they did interview several store managers who said their shoplifting rates have gone up by something like 8%-20%, and those are the people they've been catching. Shame on those women for doing that, but if there has to be a rising crime statistic in your city, that's better than many alternatives...
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Old 05-07-2009, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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Weedy and Robin - You all are on to something very interesting. This Topic seems to really fire up
the story makers and non-believers.

Pot - Kettle -- Kettle - Pot
Good for you Mike - they say recognizing the problem is half the battle - I know it'll be hard but I'm thinking you can overcome this, I'm pulling for you
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