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Old 06-24-2009, 09:00 AM
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I suggested that IF we knew more about the posters that slate people who ask certain questions or live in certain areas, then we may find a case of "the pot calling the kettle black"-I didn't ask for the information.

The meaning of the phrase "pot calling the kettle black" is "The notion that a criticism a person is making of another could equally well apply to themself "
The first person who is recorded as using the phrase in English was William Penn, the founder of Pennsylvania, in his Some fruits of solitude, 1693.
It's a bit like being hypocritcal.


Well, there's your problem - you assume the regulars here DON'T know one another when in fact many of us do. The Charlotte board is a very active place and many of us have known each other in the real world for a while now.

PS, we all know WHAT the phrase "the pot calling the kettle black means" for pete's sake What we don't know is why you think it applies to anyone here.[/quote]

Heavens above, anyone that thought there wasn't a nice little tight knit community in here somewhere would be really naive.
That's the problem, the lack of awareness that this is so obvious here.
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:11 AM
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Susan: Just about anything you would like to know about johne482 is contained in my 1896 posts (one way or another). The 3% I didn't divulge really have to do with things personal to me. ie: color of my underpants, how many mistresses, weight, use of condoms or not, STDs I might or might not have. You know, things like that. EVERYTHING else can be viewed or can be gleened by you on this public forum.

You really need to understand this forum better and what it can do for you. People are not here to hurt you or mislead you. Whatever your problems are I don't think they come as a result of advise from this board.

Going fishing for sea bass now...talk to you tonite.
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The only problem I have is with this forum -at the moment.
So far I can't say it's done much for me except make me worry seriously if I am relocating my family to another country to an area that is full of snobs from the lower middle classes with bad grammar,no college degrees and lots of bling bling.
Nothing positive apart from some lawn tips.
So I say "Thanks" to city data for that.
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:36 AM
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Wow, what a lively conversation this morning. Susan, lets look at the OP.
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I have to make a decision in the next month where I want to relocate for business. Charlotte is one option. Based on how many of the forum members would respond about better (higher priced) homes and the motivated hard working people who live in them, I thought it would be easiest just to ask the haters where the "snobiest" area of Charlotte is? As they would probably define it. I would also appreciate those with true knowledge to jump in as well...
hats asked. Posters have answered where they think the snobbiest area is and how they define it. Most of the regular posters here have lived in Charlotte for a several years, some for decades. hats question relates to the culture of the area.

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You say the we are "unaware" yet we live here. I've been here for almost 12 years and I agree that the snobiest/wealthiest areas are Myers Park and Lake Norman. Does that mean everyone there is a snob? Of course not.

I think you may have been offended by the idea of snobs on the lake.

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Sure, Myers Park, but around Lake Norman shouldnt the OP be looking in the Peninsula at a waterfront mansion? Problem is there are some nice people that live there too.
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Think you mean "The point"

Can we define "snob" so I can decide if I meet the criteria? (Not that we are in "The point" , but we are off Brawley School Road)
After this post some people expanded on what defines a snob. This was asked by OP and you.

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He really needs to go to the lake . . . sadly, I have run into some real doozies up there. People who think having some disposable income and a nice home makes them really special. And the sad thing is - they are usually from lower middle class backgrounds, have atrocious grammar, lack a college education, and think cause they were able to cash out and buy a nice home on the lake, they are "all that and more."

So that is where he needs to go.
This is a common perception in this area held by people from various backgrounds and income levels. Did anyone say everyone was like that?

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The only problem I have is with this forum -at the moment.
So far I can't say it's done much for me except make me worry seriously if I am relocating my family to another country to an area that is full of snobs from the lower middle classes with bad grammar,no college degrees and lots of bling bling.
Nothing positive apart from some lawn tips.
So I say "Thanks" to city data for that.
Don't shoot the messenger.

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I really couldn't care tuppence what peoples circumstances are, but do take offence at sweeping, biased,opinions that are prejudiced.

"I am not sure what qualifies these people to make so many sweeping statements about neighborhoods and areas- lot of what is posted is merely individual opinion and not backed up by hard facts."

"Posters "here seem to be of the same opinion, unbalanced and biased opinions"

"Yipee- that is precisely my point about biased opinions and the "information" that people take away from them. A consensus is merely a collective opinion."
I can't imagine how scary and nerve racking this move must be. However it seems like your frustrations are being taking out on people who just answered the question that was asked. Yes they gave their opinion. I think that's why we found your post so strange. Don't get worked up over "sweeping generalizations". If it doesn't apply, let it fly.

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Old 06-24-2009, 10:18 AM
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Wow, what a lively conversation this morning. Susan, lets look at the OP.

hats asked. Posters have answered where they think the snobbiest area is and how they define it. Most of the regular posters here have lived in Charlotte for a several years, some for decades. hats question relates to the culture of the area.



You say the we are "unaware" yet we live here. I've been here for almost 12 years and I agree that the snobiest/wealthiest areas are Myers Park and Lake Norman. Does that mean everyone there is a snob? Of course not.

I think you may have been offended by the idea of snobs on the lake.





After this post some people expanded on what defines a snob. This was asked by OP and you.



This is a common perception in this area held by people from various backgrounds and income levels. Did anyone say everyone was like that?



Don't shoot the messenger.

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I can't imagine how scary and nerve racking this move must be. However it seems like your frustrations are being taking out on people who just answered the question that was asked. Yes they gave their opinion. I think that's why we found your post so strange. Don't get worked up over "sweeping generalizations". If it doesn't apply, let it fly.
Actually it was someone else misquoting me that said
"Posters "here seem to be of the same opinion, unbalanced and biased opinions"

And these are just opinions, albeit unfounded and sometimes biased.
But people are so free and easy with them, but often completely unaware of their effect, not neccesarily on me.

Now we are capable of making our own mind up once we have actually lived there- if we need to move then we will move, but that would have applied to almost anywhere we had chosen.


i think there was one post that said not everyone that lived at Lake Norman were snobs.The rest don't clarify.Lake Norman covers a huge area. This is misleading for people visiting this public forum.Maybe I could direct the OP to your neighborhood, if I had a perception or opinion that it was full of snobs. That would be OK?
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Old 06-24-2009, 10:38 AM
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Actually it was someone else misquoting me that said
"Posters "here seem to be of the same opinion, unbalanced and biased opinions"

And these are just opinions, albeit unfounded and sometimes biased.
But people are so free and easy with them, but often completely unaware of their effect, not neccesarily on me.

Now we are capable of making our own mind up once we have actually lived there- if we need to move then we will move, but that would have applied to almost anywhere we had chosen.


i think there was one post that said not everyone that lived at Lake Norman were snobs.The rest don't clarify.Lake Norman covers a huge area. This is misleading for people visiting this public forum.Maybe I could direct the OP to your neighborhood, if I had a perception or opinion that it was full of snobs. That would be OK?
The original question was what is the snobbiest area - not what area is 100% snobby, or has all new rich, or where people all wear excessive bling... So when people answer that question, to say that Lake Norman is the snobbiest area is to include the definition that it is not 100% snobby - most people would get that from the posting without having to have it spelled out.

And trust me, many of these people have good friends in many locations of the city, not just on their street, and have a really good feel for the city. If you took the time to peruse the forum, you'd find that there is a representation here from almost every area of the city.
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:06 AM
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i think there was one post that said not everyone that lived at Lake Norman were snobs.The rest don't clarify.Lake Norman covers a huge area. This is misleading for people visiting this public forum.Maybe I could direct the OP to your neighborhood, if I had a perception or opinion that it was full of snobs. That would be OK?
I don't understand why you are so offended and defensive. Honestly, I'm not trying to debate with you. I'm trying to understand your point of view.

i think there was one post that said not everyone that lived at Lake Norman were snobs.The rest don't clarify. That is true. The OP asked "where the "snobiest" area of Charlotte is? As they would probably define it."

Lake Norman covers a huge area. This is misleading for people visiting this public forum. Lake Norman is a huge area. The general opinion isn't separated by towns or section of the lake. I'm not sure what is misleading. Many people define Myers Park and the Lake Norman area as the snobiests part of the Charlotte area. Fairly or unfairly, the perception exists.

Maybe I could direct the OP to your neighborhood, if I had a perception or opinion that it was full of snobs. That would be OK
You sure could because that's your opinion. Besides, I'm sure there are some snobs around here.

I live in Steele Creek and some people have the perception that it's a terrible place to live. Some think it is ridden with crime. I love living here. I feel safe; The area has a lot to offer and is convenient to just about anywhere I want to go. My point is, I'm not bothered by some people's perception of my area. If it doesn't apply, let it fly.
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The original question was what is the snobbiest area - not what area is 100% snobby, or has all new rich, or where people all wear excessive bling... So when people answer that question, to say that Lake Norman is the snobbiest area is to include the definition that it is not 100% snobby - most people would get that from the posting without having to have it spelled out.

And trust me, many of these people have good friends in many locations of the city, not just on their street, and have a really good feel for the city. If you took the time to peruse the forum, you'd find that there is a representation here from almost every area of the city.
Thanks.

Lake Norman is not "the city"- or not the city of Charlotte, but covers areas that include Mooresville, Troutman, Statesville, Sherrills Ford, Denver etc.
If people were truly informed about the Lake, and wanted to give accurate info then I would expect them to be mentioning subdivison names, or at least the city names!

So when people answer that question, to say that Lake Norman is the snobbiest area is to include the definition that it is not 100% snobby -most people would get that from the posting without having to have it spelled out.


sounds like nonsense.
How would people know that it is not 100% snobby? For some reason some posters on here want to give the impression that the whole of Lake Norman is snobby and damn the consequences.

If you took the time to look you would see that I do peruse the forum and have done for quite some time
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How would people know that it is not 100% snobby? For some reason some posters on here want to give the impression that the whole of Lake Norman is snobby and damn the consequences.
I am sincerely trying to understand what you're saying. The word "snob" seems to have struck a nerve. I'm curious, what is your definition of a snob? Why is it unfair for anyone to say the area is snobby? Again, I'm not trying to debate. I would like to understand your thoughts better.

The LKN area is perceived to be snobby especially in comparison to other areas of Charlotte. I don't understand why you are trying argue against that. I think it is misleading to say that people do not think the LKN area is snobby.

The OP asked what areas are considered wealthy and snobby. This perception didn't start a few days ago when the thread was posted. As I said before it may be unfair but the perception exists. As a NC native I can tell you it exist outside of Charlotte as well.
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