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Old 09-10-2009, 01:53 PM
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I'm not one yet but I hope to be one soon (12 - 18 months). I live in Queens County, NYC. I've been researching NC for the past month and I hope to head down there for the first of several trips in November. While most of my research has focused around the Raleigh area, I have an ex-colleague that lives in the Charlotte area and loves it.

I'm married with two young kids (2 and 6) so school is important. I"m also looking for an area that is near Charlotte but with a little bit of a rural feel. What areas can you recommend?
Hi, Allen!

I hope you will consider Charlotte along with Raleigh - you may find what you are looking for in an area around Charlotte.

Since you have children, it will most likely be easier for you to make friends and fit into the community quicker than folks without kids. At least, that is what my hubby and I discovered.

The other thing is - I would definitely take the advice of other newcomers who have expressed that it is easier to ease into the community if you are in a neighborhoods with other newcomers. This is not gonna be as difficult since you have children, but to be frank - I honestly believe it takes maybe two years b/f newcomers are accepted by the locals. When you have kids, folks will get used to seeing you at school events, children will schedule play dates - and so you just naturally meet people, start conversations and then things progress with friendships. So by simply having children - you will find it is easier to get integrated into the community.

The area that others were mentioning - around Pumpkin Center - would be a good spot with good schools if you decide on Lincoln County.

I am a native but even as a child - with just moving into a community where we were the "new" people - was a big adjustment. People tend to have generational relationships going back for many years. It is not impossible to break through that, but it is something to consider as far as WHERE you want to specifically choose a neighborhood.

Also, the locals typically have strong ties to their churches - and often attend a church where their families have attended for many generations. So social life is usually tied into church life. I have noted on other threads that there was some discussion about there not being catholic churches in that area and that is true - there really isn't a strong parish right there. That is something that a lot of newcomers fail to check out b/f arriving, b/c they are from areas where there are usually big parishes back to back. So if you are catholic and actively attend, you might want to factor that in and do some research and make sure you are comfortable with the commute back to the closest parish.
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Old 09-10-2009, 02:09 PM
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Ani, just a note. There is a Catholic Church in Denver called Holy Spirit. We actually went for the very first time last week and found it very welcoming and understanding of the adjustment of newcomers in the area. It's not huge and it is relatively small, but that is what I like about it.
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Shake it off... No idea why those posts quoted yours as they had zero to do with what you wrote. He could have saved time and space with a simple "go home yankee". Pretty sad it was so transparent.

I think the post is an indicator that you should stay cognizant of, though. There will very likely be people who will jump to similar conclusions and give you similar attitude for nothing more then where you're from. Granted it's much easier on these boards where they can hide behind an anonymous SN... but still it's something to keep in mind. Research all the angles.
Before passing judgment one ought to do some fact-checking as to

what was said and quoted, the poster had started multiple threads on this subject and does have a bit of a bias, its not wrong to have an opinion, but sometimes when facts are mixed up and bias occurs its important to point out this information.
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tech2enable,

First, I thank you for your time and for reading my request for information.

Second, if you are not going to help, why bother responding to my inquiries? I did not mention in any post that I am "conservative". Why do you assume that? Because I want to move out of NYS, which is one of the most oppressive in terms on taxation in the US?

I come to this forum seeking the kind assistance and insight of North Carolinians (native or otherwise). I believe the quality of life here in New York for MY FAMILY has severely decreased. I am seeking a better, more fuller life in another state. My research, thus far, points to NC.

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I think you ought to read my posts first as to why I said that, I did offer you suggestions, not only that but if you had provided more information about your circumstances and situations we could've given you helpful advice,

Do you run a business, if so what kind and would you benefit from another state's tax structure, ?

Are you cashing out your home, and if so do you have a mortgage on those homes?

Are you aware that North Carolina isn't exactly a "low tax state" although homes may be cheaper. (I pass no judgment in favor of that lack of status at this time)

Are you aware that certain people and residents support NC's higher taxes and don't complain about it in contrast to other states.

NC has one of the most oppressive taxes in the United States if you consider New York to have one of the most oppressive taxes, if you claim one research and fact along the same lines then why are you switching one "opppresive" place for the other.


It's like switching one wrong part for another wrong part.
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Ani, just a note. There is a Catholic Church in Denver called Holy Spirit. We actually went for the very first time last week and found it very welcoming and understanding of the adjustment of newcomers in the area. It's not huge and it is relatively small, but that is what I like about it.
I am very glad to hear this, but for sure - I didn't realize there was a church in Denver - and should have checked! Thank you for correcting that, SSD! I agree - it is nice to go to a small parish where you can get to know people.
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Thank you, anifani821 and ssd3 for the great information. I am definitely considering the Charlotte Metro area along with the Raleigh area. I'm also definitely considering the presence of a Catholic Church in the vicinity of anyplace I decide to live. Thank you for that suggestion and also, ssd3, thanks for the tip about Holy Spirit Catholic Church.
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Thank you for the advice MikeyKid.
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We recently moved from the NE to the Pumpkin Center area of Lincoln County. #1 reason we chose this area was schools. Definitely worth looking into. Denver area has more northern transplants (IMO) vs Lincolnton/Pumpkin Center.
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Before passing judgment one ought to do some fact-checking as to

what was said and quoted, the poster had started multiple threads on this subject and does have a bit of a bias, its not wrong to have an opinion, but sometimes when facts are mixed up and bias occurs its important to point out this information.
What?

and I never use actual emotes, but this qualified. >.>

The poster you quoted was not the OP here and just joined the board last month... he has 12 posts total as of today. You've made all these assumptions (mixed up facts and bias) based on what?! The guy simply wants a better life for his family and is looking at a possible NC relocation... Isn't that exactly what this board is created for? Shouldn't he be posting questions related to that here?

Oh, and seriously... what was that huge bold rant about owning a business, mortgages, and oppressive taxes? I'm guessing you're on that rant because NC taxes food? Maybe? Trying to help you help yourself here... because when a NY/NJ person talks about "taxes", they mean homeowners taxes - not taxes on your car, your food, or your booze. Granted, those taxes may be "oppressive" to a point where NC natives need to begin thinking about a revolt, but believe me when I tell you that they won't add up to the $12k+ that many NY/NJ folks have to stare at every year for just owning a home.
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What?

and I never use actual emotes, but this qualified. >.>

The poster you quoted was not the OP here and just joined the board last month... he has 12 posts total as of today. You've made all these assumptions (mixed up facts and bias) based on what?! The guy simply wants a better life for his family and is looking at a possible NC relocation... Isn't that exactly what this board is created for? Shouldn't he be posting questions related to that here?

Oh, and seriously... what was that huge bold rant about owning a business, mortgages, and oppressive taxes (author himself is the one ranting and raving, just pointing out hypocrisy) ? I'm guessing you're on that rant because NC taxes food? Maybe? Trying to help you help yourself here... because when a NY/NJ person talks about "taxes", they mean homeowners taxes - not taxes on your car, your food, or your booze. Granted, those taxes may be "oppressive" to a point where NC natives need to begin thinking about a revolt, but believe me when I tell you that they won't add up to the $12k+ that many NY/NJ folks have to stare at every year for just owning a home.
Agreed, but

The median property tax where the owner lives is about $2600/year a far cry for the $12,000/year (not sure where you got that figure from) , the effective tax rate of 0.5% of market value. So he must be ranting and raving at the same taxes he'll face in north carolina.

The author himself is on a much larger rant

Enviro-fascists’ Ultimate Goal


(A rant and a rave bias, fascism is political ideology, but people who rant and rave use terms like socialism and fascism)
Baby Fends Off Abortion and Health Czars

(propaganda about death panels and abortion )
Can Welfare Recipients Expect to be Taxed at 90% Now?

(most welfare recipients were white working class americans who lost their jobs , american spends very little of its gdp on welfare especially on the poor (although a lot for seniors, and GOP programs), aka tanf which hasn't kept up with inflation, the government does list public salaries of employees by the way, and the private sector does pay more in most cases)
Carbon Taxing in Life and Death

(life and death, title emphasis bias)
Taliban Good; Rush Limbaugh Not So Much

(Accuses obama of liking the taliban more than rush limbaugh, please)

More Public School Equals Socialism


(Wait, aren't you looking for public school in high tax North Carolina, they just raised taxes to prevent social services/welfare cuts, I take no opinion, but clearly if the author is against that, why is he posting rants and raves)



Important, I do agree with the author on certain points, because sometimes obama does have a bit of bias sometimes, and sometimes others mishandle and make mistakes, the democratic party does do political talking points too,

The author himself considered himself an "American fundamentalist", but did indicate not to be confused with a religious fundamentalist, but still he considers himself that.


Before pre-judging, I think you should analyze as to why I said the poster had a rant/rave and a bit of bias, in fairness though you may have not known about this though.
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