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Old 09-01-2009, 01:53 PM
 
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Always ask for a discount at Urgent Care Centers. Hopefully, they will reduce that bill substantially for you.

Yes, it is demoralizing. Just got my hubby's last hospital bill tonite. $105,000. That does not include physician fees. I about passed out. I will owe 20% of that wh/ would be over $20K. Then hubby opened the BC/BS envelope - and they denied coverage, b/c they said he did not get certified for inpatient care. We had made calls, the hospital had made calls and the physician's office had made calls prior to surgery. Now, I will have to go thru/ months of letters, reviews, phone calls, etc along with an appeal to try to get this resolved. I am sure since they denied this, they will doubtless deny the physician fees, as well.

Welcome to America's over-priced healthcare system!

But hubby did get EXCELLENT care-couldn't be more pleased with his physicians and their staff members. We feel very fortunate to have received outstanding care.

 
Old 09-01-2009, 02:00 PM
 
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[quote=susan42;10559079]So your concern for people working in sweat shops abroad doesn't extend to mothers with illegitimate children in the US?
What an offensive comment to make.

--I see absolutely no connection to people working in sweat shops abroad and mothers with illigitimate children in the U.S. Hopefully you relize that we don't have sweat shops anymore.

--Living in Newcastle, you may not understand that there are millions of illigitimate children born in this country every year. Many of these mothers have found it easier to have children and let the government support their lifestyle than to put forth effort in school or get a job and education so they can be financially responsible. People that don't do this do not have my sympathy.

-- They go to the end of the line.

What about a college student who has an illegitimate child?

--A person that is trying to better her/himself by going to college would qualify as would their child.

Or a mother with an illegitimate child who works,but is unable to afford healthcare?

--This person would possibly qualify but may have to pay a minimal fee.

Hopefully I have made my health plan clear and now we can scratch the proposed one.
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Old 09-01-2009, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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I must be lucky. Everytime I've gone to the Urgent Care center I've been out $15-30 at the end of the day. That's with blood work, splints, shots, etc.
 
Old 09-01-2009, 02:04 PM
 
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"...I itemized what it would cost ME to buy the supplies, food, equipment etc if I had to pay for it myself every month....total was $903/month. A lot, yes, but ok..." So will you be buying the items from now on?
I pay $0 right now, so I will not be, since we pay for ins. to cover the costs....just don't understand why they have to pay almost 4x the actual cost of the supplies we get. I don't have an extra $900 every month when I'm already paying for insurance!
 
Old 09-01-2009, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Concord, NC
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Susan - there is a set of recommended booster shots that the public schools require at certain age brackets to be able to enroll for the school year. Additionally, the peds check their weight and height against the general population at their ages to plot their location in terms of percentile. I guess falling way below that is an indication of a problem. He also examines motor coordination (e.g. how far they can bend to touch toes), any signs of scoliosis in the spine, any enlarged nodes near the throat, etc. When the children approach adolescence, they ask the kids how their periods are (in the case of girls), whether the normal physical signs of growth are present (e.g. underarm hair, facial hair, breasts, etc.) although our ped doesn't do gyn exams, hygiene practices, etc. He interviews the kids for other adolescent psych issues as perceived bullying issues in school, reaction to friends' drug or alcohol use as examples. Basically, he looks for signs or advices us on what to look for if we suspect anything out of the ordinary.

At the annual checkups also, the peds ask us if there are other issues we have observed in the children that may be indicative of hearing or eyesight issues. For example, when my daughter was in kindergarten, she always fell asleep in the after school program and had a tendency to snore. After a series of tests with specialists, that included a hearing test and visual test, she was diagnosed with sleep apnea brought about by enlarged tonsils and adenoids. Consequently, it was recommended that she have a tonsillectomy and adenoidectomy, which eliminated the condition. This last visit though, there was an additional diagnosis of migraines, and that triggered an extra charge, which in my mind was what the visit should have been for. It seems that they expect to charge that code only when everything is normal.
I dont remember having any annual checkups as a kid. I received my normal immunization shots but that is it. We went to the doc when we were sick and thats it. We had pretty good insurance since my mom worked for the school system so it wasn't a cost problem. Is this something new? I am 32 with no kids so I may be out of the loop!
 
Old 09-01-2009, 02:09 PM
 
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So your concern for people working in sweat shops abroad doesn't extend to mothers with illegitimate children in the US?
What an offensive comment to make.

--I see absolutely no connection to people working in sweat shops abroad and mothers with illigitimate children in the U.S. Hopefully you relize that we don't have sweat shops anymore.

--Living in Newcastle, you may not understand that there are millions of illigitimate children born in this country every year. Many of these mothers have found it easier to have children and let the government support their lifestyle than to put forth effort in school or get a job and education so they can be financially responsible. People that don't do this do not have my sympathy.

-- They go to the end of the line.

What about a college student who has an illegitimate child?

--A person that is trying to better her/himself by going to college would qualify as would their child.

Or a mother with an illegitimate child who works,but is unable to afford healthcare?

--This person would possibly qualify but may have to pay a minimal fee.

Hopefully I have made my health plan clear and now we can scratch the proposed one.
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Of course there aren't any illegitimate children in Newcastle
Not all illegitimate children have mothers who are trying to sponge off the govt.Some people actually chose to have a child without getting married.
I think you should have qualified what you meant rather than making a sweeping statement.
 
Old 09-01-2009, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Chattanooga, TN
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We need reform, not socialized medicine.
Are you going to be the one to sit down with vets and tell them no more VA - health care, hospitals, coverage? That is one of the best examples of "socialized medicine" in this country.

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Mothers with illigitimate children and non-working stiffs would be at the end of the list.
What do you mean by "illegitimate"? How do you define "non-working" stiff"? I've been unemployed almost a year, look everyday for a job, when do I become a non-working stiff?
 
Old 09-01-2009, 02:28 PM
 
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Thanks-I did say that I understood about vaccinations being important.And in my last post I did say that apart from vaccinations son had only been to Drs twice.NHS isn't that backward
They don't vaccinate against Polio or Smallpox anymore, or TB which is funny as everyone seems mad keen on checking immunity and it is on the increase.

All kids are now vaccinated against Hep B over there, but not in the UK-not sure about other countries.
Susan, there is a world of difference between the national health in the U.K. (which I experienced many years) and that in the U.S. When I was last in the U.K., last year, I was told by a doctor that the colonoscopy was an American thing and wasn't neccessary. I remember when living in the U.K., a stoppage on mammograms because funding had run out. I also remember when pap smears stopped towards the end of one year as only 1,400 women in the U.K. had died and doing more wasn't justified. I remember going to the NH dentist and being told that I could get a national health cap for my tooth t for a very cheap price or I could get one that would last many years for a very high price. Many of the medications used there have been off the shelves in the U.S. for years. I also remember being given the wrong medicine on a few occasions. The excellent doctors in the U.K work on Harley Street, London. To see one, you need to have lots of money.

On the other hand, it is possible to have to sell one's house in the U.S. to get the hospitilization or treatment that one needs. Nobody is denied treatment in the U.S. but if one doesn't have insurance they are treated in the emergency room. Emergency room services are double the cost than that of the general hospital. People like me that would pay can possibly be in debt for a long time. Of course the problem in the U.S. is that we have to pay for those that expect treatment and have no intention on paying for it. Oh yea, illegal immigrants get free service at my expense. That sucks.

The U.S. is more advanced in medical facilities, treatment, and training than other countries worldwide. We don't won't to change this through a government imposed budget via national health which will restrict expenditures for equipment and technology that makes us so advanced.

Nevertheless, reform must be done to ensure that temporarily unemployed people and others facing a temporary setback are covered without being in debt the rest of their lives. Of course, there will always be that sector in the U.S. that will never pay or have no intention of trying to pay. These are the ones that attribute to charges being so high.
 
Old 09-01-2009, 02:31 PM
 
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Too many commies wrapped up with MoveOn... Have you seen their member/constituent groups?

Communist Party this and socialist party that... I'm not sure how this group has any credibilty left.

I'm PRO-reform, but any association with moveon hurts.
 
Old 09-01-2009, 02:37 PM
 
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How very Christian of you. Jesus would be proud of that comment.
Thank you. He actually signed off on my proposal.
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