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Old 10-08-2009, 05:59 PM
 
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I am not sure why it is considered an insult to Charlotte to point out the successes of other cities in the Carolinas. If they have done something right that isn't being done there, then why not look into it instead of dismissing them as too backwards and too small to teach Charlotte anything? I don't understand the mentality behind that.
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Old 10-08-2009, 06:44 PM
 
Location: State of Being
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I am not sure why it is considered an insult to Charlotte to point out the successes of other cities in the Carolinas. If they have done something right that isn't being done there, then why not look into it instead of dismissing them as too backwards and too small to teach Charlotte anything? I don't understand the mentality behind that.
Until our unemployment drops at least half of what it currently is . . . Charlotte is not an attractive place to move (unless you are one of the lucky few who are recruited for a job).

The article is based on obsolete info . . . the world has changed. Our unemployment is too high for either Charlotte or Raleigh to be attractive to new college graduates - unless they can land a job b/f they move here.

The most attractive spots for young folks right now? Any place where they can find a job - be it Raleigh or Buffalo!!!
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Old 10-08-2009, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Crown Town
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I am not sure why it is considered an insult to Charlotte to point out the successes of other cities in the Carolinas. If they have done something right that isn't being done there, then why not look into it instead of dismissing them as too backwards and too small to teach Charlotte anything? I don't understand the mentality behind that.
Its an insult when people ignore the fact that they are smaller than us. The fact is, there are many roads they are getting ready to go down, that we've already traveled. Such as ending busing and building mass transit. That's the point urbancharlotte was making. It does matter that they are smaller than us. Just like what happend to CMS, as they've gotten bigger, they can't satisfy folks by busing kids any more. Logistically it can't work for them, folks are mad as hell up there. That's what we went through. Again, you can't hold up their school system and praise it as one we should emulate, when they're getting ready to change theirs to look just like ours.

BTW, there's also a huge push up there to get a transit tax just like ours. I don't suspose you or Tara at WBT knew that????
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Old 10-08-2009, 07:50 PM
 
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The fact is, there are many roads they are getting ready to go down, that we've already traveled. Such as ending busing.
So segregating schools much like CMS has is considered progress to you? Interesting perspective.

As as a resident of Wake County I can tell you first hand that there is not wide spread outrage about the schools as you seem to suggest. However those that are unhappy are quite vocal. During the schoold board elections last week a little over 11% of the eligible voters voted. Hardly a mandate in the making.
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Old 10-08-2009, 08:12 PM
 
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So segregating schools much like CMS has is considered progress to you? Interesting perspective.

As as a resident of Wake County I can tell you first hand that there is not wide spread outrage about the schools as you seem to suggest. However those that are unhappy are quite vocal. During the schoold board elections last week a little over 11% of the eligible voters voted. Hardly a mandate in the making.
No, you've never read a single comment by me where I said I was in favor of segregating schools. And you must have been under a rock these past few months, because you obviously have no clue as to why there was just a major shake up of Wake's school board only..ummm...let me see...two days ago...You can try to deny the obvious if you want, but Wake county schools will be changing, and soon...

Link 1: 'Neighborhood schools' issue tapped anger - Politics - News & Observer

..."The low turnout has always been there," said Pope, the GOP county leader. "The current board was elected by a low turnout"...

Link 2: Truitt: 'Forced busing is dead' - Local - News & Observer
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Old 10-08-2009, 08:30 PM
 
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Charlotte's unemployment is:
  • 37% higher than Raleigh-Cary
  • 48% higher than Durham-Chapel Hill
In fact it is significantly higher than all the other metros in NC except for Rocky Mount. Seems to me, we ought to be investigating why these other places are doing so much better.

If it remains this way, it will no longer become a question of attracting new blood, but a question of retaining what we have.
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Old 10-08-2009, 08:50 PM
 
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Charlotte's unemployment is:
  • 37% higher than Raleigh-Cary
  • 48% higher than Durham-Chapel Hill
In fact it is significantly higher than all the other metros in NC except for Rocky Mount. Seems to me, we ought to be investigating why these other places are doing so much better.

If it remains this way, it will no longer become a question of attracting new blood, but a question of retaining what we have.
I think Ani said it best. There's really nothing attractive about an 8% unemployment rate. Folks like you continue to suggest Charlotte is in a "one city" recession.

And here's a link to the rates for each "county", probably a more accurate comparison...North Carolina unemployment rates, county-by-county :: WRAL.com
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Old 10-08-2009, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Wouldn't you like to know?
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Charlotte's unemployment is:
  • 37% higher than Raleigh-Cary
  • 48% higher than Durham-Chapel Hill
In fact it is significantly higher than all the other metros in NC except for Rocky Mount. Seems to me, we ought to be investigating why these other places are doing so much better.

If it remains this way, it will no longer become a question of attracting new blood, but a question of retaining what we have.
Well, Charlotte rose and fell on banking...kind of like the Detroit of the south...too much invested in one industry w/o the forward vision to have a plan b (which was needed)....we WILL bounce back someday. Its going to take an extremely long time but we will....
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Old 10-08-2009, 09:12 PM
 
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No, you've never read a single comment by me where I said I was in favor of segregating schools. And you must have been under a rock these past few months, because you obviously have no clue as to why there was just a major shake up of Wake's school board only..ummm...let me see...two days ago...You can try to deny the obvious if you want, but Wake county schools will be changing, and soon...
Blue,

I saw your post just a few days ago about Wake county schools. All the more reason why I was surprised to see you talk about Raleigh following in the footsteps of CMS in ending busing as if it were a good thing. I still find your comment odd.

I was one of the few who voted as you pointed out "two days ago". There were no board of education seats up in my area. No clue as to why the vote went the way it did? Hardly. My point was there is not widespread outrage as has been implied here. Little more than 11% of voters participated. Hardly a majority of the overall population. Although it was unfortunate that that anti-diversity crowd was better organized.

Your comment that wake county schools will be changing soon is a tad naive. Campaigning is one thing, making good on promises once you are in your elected seat and accountable for your actions is another. I'm sure things will change, but changing a long standing program can't be done without a plan, a plan which the new candidates don't really have. It will likely be a couple of years before any significant change. Maybe that is soon to you, I don't know. But those in Wake County who think things will change overnight obviously don't know much about public policy and local government politics.

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Old 10-09-2009, 06:50 AM
 
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In addition, there may be entry level jobs in the biotech field (in the Raleigh region) but with the economic conditions and layoffs . . . is that going to continue? Seems to me, when new jobs open, if companies can hire experienced folks at reduced salaries, then that is exactly what they will do.
Actually, I work for a Pharma CRO headquartered in Raleigh, and they have actually continued to grow and have been hiring over the past couple of years - albeit slowly, but steady. Until earlier this year, I was working with another such company, this one based out of NYC, that pretty much wen't belly-up. A fair number of my co-workers there who either got layed off or left before the ship completely sank wound up finding jobs at companies based in RTP. And most of us made the transition with no cut in salary (a few got raises) or with a salary cut of under 10%.

In my case, it took me a little longer to land a new job because I also needed to find a company that would allow me to continue to work from my home office in Charlotte. Had I actually lived within a commuteable distance from the triangle, I would have had a lot more options. So if I had been looking to move to NC while also looking for a job, or at least with job prospects on my mind as part of my move, Raleigh would have trumped Charlotte for me - because in the biotech field, there are a lot more opportunities there than in Charlotte.
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