Why dont the Bobcats draw better crowds? (Charlotte: colleges, tax)

[anifani821]

Originally Posted by baybook

Are you here to contribute to the discussion or are you simply overly invested in my comments? If you aren't here to contribute, but to bother me, that's a violation of TOS, isn't it?

And if you really want to know what I do for a living, search my posting history. I'm sure I've mentioned it a few dozen times.

I will say this again. Your glowing opinion of the team and management does not match up to everyone else's. We have established that we are all entitled to opinions, Baybook. I am merely pointing out that you seem to see the team and management in much more positive ways than the rest of us.

I believe you do website development and I was genuinely wondering if you worked for the organization or one of their affiliates, as that would explain why perhaps you have a better insight on how the organization is run - and that you understand aspects about the organization that we don't. I was not putting you down. I sincerely wondered if you had insight that the rest of us lacked.

[sophialee]

Originally Posted by lumbollo

I noticed that luv. Maybe you didn't bother to read what I posted. Geez. Do you have anything to add to this topic that anyone might want to read?

First off..my name isn't "Luv". K'?

Secondly, I DID read what you posted, which is why I wondered why you told him he'd never heard of the Hornets, when it was obvious he had.

And as far as me posting something that someone might actually want to read? Well that's rich coming from you

No need to respond w/ one of your snarky comments to this either.

[CouponJack]

Maybe I'm cheap, but going to a bobcats game is not cheap. Yes, I can sit in the upper level and bring my binoculars, however for 2 tickets in the lower level corners, you're going to spend a minimum of $100 at the game for 2 tickets.....

Professional sports (prices) have been out of control for a long time IMO....

[urbancharlotte]

I remember the Hornets players coming to my neighborhood (South Side Homes) to rebuild our basketball court. I was like 14 years old back then. Alonzo "Zo" jumped up (without a running start) and dunked the basketball on the new court with two hands. I thought to myself "I can do that" (which I could at that age; and still can at nearly 30 years old now lol). I can still remember that HUGE mural of the Hornets on the First Union building. That mural could be seen from all the way down South Tryon street into Southend. I miss those days of riding the #16 transit bus and seeing that mural on my way to school. I can still remember those "grandmama" commercials with Larry Johnson in a dress and wig LOL. I can even remember that episode of "Family Matters" when they gave a BIG TIME shout out to the Charlotte Hornets in the entire episode (the character "Carl Winslow" on that show is a Raleighite in real life and we have him to thank for that episode).

In short, the Hornets were a symbol of Charlotte's "arrival". They were our first love. Heck, they were even named after Charlotte's "Hornets Nests" moniker. They were our history and our soul in MANY ways and NOTHING can replace that. I support the Bobcats, but they ARE NOT the Hornets to me (and NEVER will be). I don't blame Charlotte one bit for not liking the Bobcats. I personally think Charlotte and the NBA should have parted ways for good; possibly leaving Charlotte room to start over with MLB and the NHL instead. The NBA dumped its prettiest girl friend (Charlotte). Why should Charlotte take him (the NBA) back?

Here is that episode and one of those commercials for the newcomers to Charlotte that don't know what I am talking about (or the old timers that have forgotten). Enjoy!!!


YouTube - Family Matters - 5x07 - Grandmama Part 1

YouTube - Family Matters - 5x07 - Grandmama Part 2

YouTube - Converse React Commercial w/ Larry Johnson

Man!!! Now THOSE were the DAYS!!!!!!

[anifani821]

Originally Posted by CouponJack

Maybe I'm cheap, but going to a bobcats game is not cheap. Yes, I can sit in the upper level and bring my binoculars, however for 2 tickets in the lower level corners, you're going to spend a minimum of $100 at the game for 2 tickets.....

Professional sports (prices) have been out of control for a long time IMO....

Well, you and I both may be cheap, lol.

Since I really am not entranced with the Bobcats, I am not likely to feel good about making the effort and spending the money. If I were a big fan, I would probably feel differently about spending the money, even if I thought it was a high price to pay for those seats. I have been willing to pay big bucks in the past for NBA tickets w/ other teams.

I think a lot of folks are like me - they are not enthusiastic supporters of this team, for whatever reasons. On the other hand, it may be a lot of folks just don't feel comfortable spending the $$$$.

I have felt the team (and management) were not marketed well from Day One - something that I personally feel can't be blamed on the media. I think that is a problem w/in the organization.

[anifani821]

Once again, URBAN, you have managed to explain what I couldn't verbalize. THANK YOU. I think you hit it right on many of your points. We did love the Hornets and they seemed engaged with the community. I have read things that have been posted about the Bobcats being very kind to folks in need in this region, but that's the thing - it is all secondhand. We felt we KNEW the Hornets. We felt they were proud to be here and cared about their fans.

I guess I just don't feel the love coming from either Johnson or his team.

[Tober138]

Originally Posted by baybook

I find booing and hissing to be classless and inappropriate in any venue. Booing/hissing lacks basic common courtesy. My opinion.

Fair enough...but then again, some people need to be booed. Bob Johnson is one of them. Actually, what he needs is a smack upside the head and a swift kick in the rear.

As far as I'm concerned, the Checkers are the only sports team that plays in Cable Box that matters.

[TominLasVegas]

Originally Posted by urbancharlotte

I remember the Hornets players coming to my neighborhood (South Side Homes) to rebuild our basketball court. I was like 14 years old back then. Alonzo "Zo" jumped up (without a running start) and dunked the basketball on the new court with two hands. I thought to myself "I can do that" (which I could at that age; and still can at nearly 30 years old now lol). I can still remember that HUGE mural of the Hornets on the First Union building. That mural could be seen from all the way down South Tryon street into Southend. I miss those days of riding the #16 transit bus and seeing that mural on my way to school. I can still remember those "grandmama" commercials with Larry Johnson in a dress and wig LOL. I can even remember that episode of "Family Matters" when they gave a BIG TIME shout out to the Charlotte Hornets in the entire episode (the character "Carl Winslow" on that show is a Raleighite in real life and we have him to thank for that episode).

In short, the Hornets were a symbol of Charlotte's "arrival". They were our first love. Heck, they were even named after Charlotte's "Hornets Nests" moniker. They were our history and our soul in MANY ways and NOTHING can replace that. I support the Bobcats, but they ARE NOT the Hornets to me (and NEVER will be). I don't blame Charlotte one bit for not liking the Bobcats. I personally think Charlotte and the NBA should have parted ways for good; possibly leaving Charlotte room to start over with MLB and the NHL instead. The NBA dumped its prettiest girl friend (Charlotte). Why should Charlotte take him (the NBA) back?

Here is that episode and one of those commercials for the newcomers to Charlotte that don't know what I am talking about (or the old timers that have forgotten). Enjoy!!!


YouTube - Family Matters - 5x07 - Grandmama Part 1

YouTube - Family Matters - 5x07 - Grandmama Part 2

YouTube - Converse React Commercial w/ Larry Johnson

Man!!! Now THOSE were the DAYS!!!!!!

As a lifelong Las Vegan and UNLV fan I can tell you LJ was and still is loved here in Vegas. He brought us the National championship in 1990. Before he hurt his back he was on his way to being on of the greats in NBA history. He was truly a man among boys while at UNLV. He is without a doubt considered the greatest player in UNLV history. and its a damn shame the hornets left Charlotte especially the way they did.

[Stripes17]

We don't go to Bobcat games either. We went once last season. My boss let us use the corporate box. It still cost me over $150 to provide hot dogs, chicken wings and sodas to the four kids I brought to the game (minimum servings). The NBA and Bobcats in particular are not a good way for me to spend my time and money.

I'd much rather go watch the Checkers or go to a concert/play at Blumenthal.

[NCbyChoice]

In all fairness to baybook, he was simply stating his opinions based on his experience. In looking back through the thread, I'm not sure what got people all riled up against him (her?) in the first place. Anyways, if he has had a good experience with the Bobcats, then good for him. Many other people have as well, or they wouldn't be renewing their season tickets.

I have already expressed my strong dislike for the ownership group. That having been said, I don't cheer for the owners, I cheer for the team, I cheer for the city. If I go, I'm paying for my entertainment, not to fill the pockets of anyone - like or dislike.

Am I as excited about this team as I was the Hornets? No, not even close, for reasons stated in previous posts. However, if they can develop a team that can compete in the east, I'm sure I'll jump on the bandwagon, with most of the rest of the city. Does that make Charlotte a bad sports town? No. It makes it normal. Most cities are only going to support a winner. That's just natural. That is nowhere near being exclusive to Charlotte. Our time and money are too valuable to spend on sub-par performances.

This city could again become a very good NBA city. Winning may not cure all, but it could cure most. And for all those people that are basketball purists and hate the NBA style, our own team is as close as you will get to "real" basketball in the NBA. They play hard, they pay defense, they move the ball, they play unselfish, they play as a team, etc..

Damn, I think I just talked myself into going to the next home game.....