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Old 03-21-2010, 10:02 AM
 
Location: State of Being
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Johnson is gonna look pretty lame with those race-baiting comments when MJ makes a success of the team.

I agree that Charlotte is incestuous. I get the bulk of my business from outside Charlotte. It took me five years of steady networking to even make a headway here w/ clients. Folks did business w/ the same people they had been friends w/ in college, worked w/ elsewhere, etc.

But that has nothing to do with race. I guess if I were black, I could have blamed it on race . . . but that would not have been accurate - any more than Johnson's whining and blame-shifting is accurate.

I wonder when folks will be able to just say they don't like someone (or don't like doing business with them)- and not have it be assumed that it has a thing to do with race . . . ???

If Jordan is connected w/ the community here, he can turn things around. If he does, it will be b/c he is an engaging person with skills. It won't have a thing to do w/ his race.

Johnson needs to re-assess the chip on his shoulder.
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:28 AM
 
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Default I'm OK with animal references

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We also have another team name in Charlotte w/a similar animal reference...(Panthers...)

Some speculate it was chosen because of B Johnson's first name "bob(s) cats"....

who knows.....

anyhoo, MJ owns the team and if the team is successful, fans will attend bottom line....its already happening. That's one thing BJohnson couldn't get done....

I'm OK with animal references, but one of the reasons the Panthers are such a joke is the black and baby blue team colors...with uniforms that look like a HS prep team...no one takes them seriously
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:38 AM
 
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first of all, the team's name is the "Bobcats" and the team colors are blue and orange...I expect that from a Christian Youth League team, not an NBA squad...no amount of finger-pointing can overcome those set backs
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one of the reasons the Panthers are such a joke is the black and baby blue team colors...with uniforms that look like a HS prep team...no one takes them seriously
That's rationale you'd hear on a middle school playground.
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Old 03-21-2010, 01:28 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Because the purple and gold of the Lakers or the red and black of the Bulls are somehow more grown up than blue and orange?

If the team is good, people will come to the games - regardless of who the owner is or how much of an a-hole he/she may be. You think all those folks go to Laker games because Dr. Jerry Buss is such a swell guy?
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Old 03-21-2010, 01:40 PM
 
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Pfft.
Turning the issue to race, I expected no less.
What a classy way to say thank you to those people who bought season tickets. Not too many looked like Johnson since he did bring up the issue.
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Old 03-21-2010, 03:04 PM
 
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There is no reason why the city of Charlotte should assist minority businesses any more than they do anyone else. This is 2010 and blacks have as much if not more opportunity than anyone else thanks to Affirmative Action which is nothing more than racial discrimination against whites.
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Old 03-21-2010, 03:35 PM
 
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What a classy way to say thank you to those people who bought season tickets. Not too many looked like Johnson since he did bring up the issue.
Let's all move on. Any discussion of race on this board juet goes south with a quickness. He is entitled to his opinion based on HIS experience. Oh well.

For the record, Bobcats season ticket holders are pretty diverse. That's a plus for Charlotte. There are quite a few that look like Johnon and now Jordan.
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Old 03-21-2010, 04:13 PM
 
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Let's all move on. Any discussion of race on this board juet goes south with a quickness. He is entitled to his opinion based on HIS experience. Oh well.

For the record, Bobcats season ticket holders are pretty diverse. That's a plus for Charlotte. There are quite a few that look like Johnon and now Jordan.
Why do you feel we need to "move on?" We are all on topic! The article is almost exclusively about being successful (or not) in Charlotte, if you are a minority.

And the quotes are from both Johnson and Foxx, both AA.

I am very curious as to why Foxx and Johnson both feel Charlotte is "closed" to them to any degree at all - more than it is closed to any of the rest of us.

And I also find it very interesting that our Mayor believes that by counting minority businesses, that is going to tell us all something about lending practices, openness to minority businesses, etc. If I were assessing a business, there is a whole lot more that goes into that equation than the race of the owner. People don't get loans for a lot of reasons - usually b/c their business plan is lousy and/or they don't have a track record.

Seeing as how I am a female, I guess I can just pass off any failures I feel I may have had - or roadblocks with financing or getting the big contracts that I was passed over for - by "blaming" it all on Charlotte's non-support of women.

I thought the way you assessed a business's success was based on how well the organization is run, not on the owner's color or sex.

If you are difficult to work with, have your own "attitude" that conflicts with others, are not good at judging trends, are not a good manager, have a shakey business plan, prefer hiring within your own race to support others who "look like you" rather than choosing the most qualified person regardless of age, sex, race, etc. - those are the things that are gonna cause your business to fail. That is true no matter what your sex or your race.
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Old 03-21-2010, 05:41 PM
 
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Pfft.
Turning the issue to race, I expected no less.



Not sure I follow this.
The Hornets had a great run, the place was packed (and I was there).
Hottest ticket in town for years.
We just got frustrated with Shinn and his antics and arrogance.

Then we get a new team in an arena we voted against and now will have to pay for.
I've never been to a single of Bobcats game, and went to hundreds or Hornets games.
I'm mad about the city defiance to the voters re the arena, we had a great venue.
Madison Square Garden has been in the same location since 1968 - 42 years.
Our second Coliseum ('Bojangles' on Independence is #1) from opening to demolition was only 19 years - someone is not planning correctly.

Besides, the NBA just doesn't excite me anymore, and it is not racial contrary to Mr. Johnson...
We did not vote against the Arena. We did not vote for the Arena. The City Council cast the only vote that mattered. If there had been a binding public vote taken on the Arena it would have been a good chance that it would have passed based upon other votes that built the old arenas since more than the naysayers would have taken the time to vote . You attended many Hornets games because voters approved of an Arena when others at that time thought that the old one was adequate. I lived in Norfolk VA. back when the Arena "the Scope" was built it is comparable to Bojangles Arena here. Norfolk VA at that time was a larger city than Charlotte. Norfolk's major arena is still the Scope over forty years later. But Charlotte in the last forty years has grown to be a larger city than Norfolk. You can't buy a child a pair of pants and get upset four years later because he has outgrown them.
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Old 03-21-2010, 05:51 PM
 
Location: The 12th State
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We did not vote against the Arena. We did not vote for the Arena. The City Council cast the only vote that mattered. If there had been a binding public vote taken on the Arena it would have been a good chance that it would have passed based upon other votes that built the old arenas since more than the naysayers would have taken the time to vote . You attended many Hornets games because voters approved of an Arena when others at that time thought that the old one was adequate. I lived in Norfolk VA. back when the Arena "the Scope" was built it is comparable to Bojangles Arena here. Norfolk VA at that time was a larger city than Charlotte. Norfolk's major arena is still the Scope over forty years later. But Charlotte in the last forty years has grown to be a larger city than Norfolk. You can't buy a child a pair of pants and get upset four years later because he has outgrown them.
YES WE DID VOTE AGAINST THE ARENA
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I just think kinda funny history just keeps repeating itself. I never stood why the old arena was tore down
it wasnt because of age it was still rather new. I remenber the video tron crashing during Janet Jackson 1814 tour

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