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Location: Partisanship Is An Intellectual/Emotional Handicap
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Originally Posted by anifani821
Well, the joke would be lost here on about 80% of the natives as they would have no idea who Gretzky even is.
And you will have to point out to me where you think a Southerner has been rude on this thread.
There is nothing rude about objecting to being stereotyped and minimized, is there?
NMyTree, I am sure you have been a wonderful addition to the area and to your chosen "new home." And sometimes, it takes a fresh perspective to bring ideas to the table. I would think you would be a lot more open-minded to a "live and let live" attitude, tho, than your posts on this thread might suggest.
Open-minded? Live and Let Live?
My comments are everything about Live and Let Live. Read them again and see it from my point of view.
That will be the day when people of religion (of all religions) adopt the same philosphy.
I sick of being bombarded with the constant Religious agenda of Casey Kasem's Top Four Religions. " This week.....Number One with a bullet on top of the charts...."
I didn't minimize or stereotype southerners.
I spoke in terms of some......Some.....Some Southerners do exactly what I claimed they do. That's not inaccurate or untruthful. In fact, my initial comments were directed towards people of religion. Not Southerners.
I think you agree that there are plenty of Northerners, Westerners, middle-westerners and people from all over the place; who reside in North Carolina and are attatched to one religion or another, correct?
I think you agree that religions, Christianity and Jesus himself; are not exclusive to Southerners, right?
Firstly, I made a comment in my second post, in this thread, about people of all religions. Not of every, single individual person of every religion. And certainly not about njust one exclusive to the South religion.
But it's a bit silly to try and portray a large majority of people of religion, as anything other than intrusive, bullying, oppressive and manipulative.
Because a large majority of people of religion behave in exactly that manner.
And even if they are not thrusting themselves into the media spotlight in a big way; they are quite pre-occupied with constantly infusing and intruding into every one around them's lives and converstions with neverending pontifications and claims of their special God of choice.
They can't keep their mouths shut about it and they have no respect for anyone else's beliefs. And even when you politley ask them to refrain from the constant God bombardments; they still insist on doing so.
Surely you're not arguing that a large majority of people of religion do not behave in exactly this manner.
And if you don't think Loves was being rude, then, what else is there to say?
Look at my first two posts. did I personally target, insult, name-call and isolate my comments towards Loves? No, I did not.
But that didn't stop her from assuming or taking it personally, did it?
Listen, I'm not isulted or offended by anything Loves said. I understand where it's coming from. But let's not be hypocritical, here. Let's not play victim cards and feign such offense.
Last edited by SunnyKayak; 05-25-2010 at 05:05 PM..
NMyTree . . . I think I misread what you wrote. I believe you were being rhetorical now that I re-read it.
Okay. Here is the bottom line with what I was trying to express about folks seeing religioius stuff and being insulted.
I don't get insulted seeing stuff about other religions. Now, as you said, maybe there are those who do. What I get aggravated about is when folks are intolerant of other religions, and I think that is what you were basically saying (did I read it right this time?)
I just ignore it when folks evangelize to me about ANY religion. I switch the station on the radio or change the subject if I don't wanna hear it. But I don't get offended when folks feel they need to evangelize (such as with Jehovah's Witnesses). I find it interruptive. If I want to learn about a religion, I will do it on my own time - I find "in your face" pushy evangelism intrusive.
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Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Originally Posted by anifani821
That's b/c there is so little that has a sense of "context" in Charlotte. I feel like someone was playing Sim City and just pressed a button, bulldozed anything of interest and then came in with the big booms and started building, lol. A lot of Charlotte feels rather disjointed, and that is a shame, as the city had a lovely design at the turn of the 20th Century.
Thanks for taking my observation in the way that it was intended.
When we moved to the Philadelphia area everything seemed, well, so old. Over the years as buildings were rehabbed instead of being torn down, I learned to appreciate the scale & the decorative detail that rarely appears on the new buildings. The new buildings are sterile.
With jobs being scarce, I wonder if it would be feasible for some of us to form some sort of a business/organization to save buildings to have them gutted for repurposing, & find people to use/live in them. It's cheaper than demolishing & building new, saves the character of neighborhoods, & provides work.
I think you agree that religions, Christianity and Jesus himself; are not exclusive to Southerners, right?
This reminds me of a funny story...
There was a man who decided to write a book about the different churches of the United States. He flies to San Francisco and begins taking photographs in the very large Grace Cathedral. Suddenly he spot a golden telephone on a wall. Above it a sign reads $10,000 a minute.
Intrigued, the writer seeks out the priest who explains that this golden phone is, in fact, a direct line to Heaven, and if he wants to use it, he can talk directly to God. "Thank you very much," the man says and continues on his way.
His research takes him to churches in Milwaukee, Chicago and New York. Each time he notices the same type of phone with exactly the same sign. Each time he seeks out the parish priest, asks the same question, and gets the same answer: it is a direct line to God. He thanks the priest and continues on his way.
This continues through many other states until finally, he arrives in North Carolina.
Upon entering a small rural church he is about to walk right by the standard golden telephone when the sign above it grabs his attention. This time the sign reads "Calls 25 cents." By now he is fascinated. He finds the Pastor and says to him, "Sir, I have been in cities all across the country, and in each church I found this golden telephone and was told that it was a direct line to Heaven and that I could talk to God. But, in all of the other churches it was $10,000 a minute. Your sign reads 'Calls 25 cents.' Why?"
The Pastor smiles benignly and says, "Oh, my son, that's easy. You're in the South now, it's a local call."
/I think we all can lighten up a bit, and I am also speaking to myself/
The topic at hand is historic signage that has been around the area for decades.
Last edited by SunnyKayak; 05-25-2010 at 05:06 PM..
What happened to "live and let live?" Old Southern families have always lived by that adage. Why? Because we always had so many skeletons in our OWN closets, there was no way we were gonna point fingers at others, lol. We just wanted everyone to "live and let live" so we didn't have to answer for our own family's foibles.
Ani, you always have the funniest come backs.
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Right when I have you all figured out, you come out through a different angle . Back to the topic. I love that Charlotte is trying to save so much of its oldies. I am specially glad that the old firehouse was saved a few weeks ago.
Now, regarding this sign, I truly thinks that it is pretty ugly, but that's just my opinion and nothing to do with its message.
Last edited by SunnyKayak; 05-25-2010 at 05:07 PM..
Location: Partisanship Is An Intellectual/Emotional Handicap
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First of all . . . Buddha never purported to "save" so that sign can't exist..
Yes, thank you for making the effort. But my comment wasn't supposed to be literal or an accurate representation of the fiction.
It was supposed to be absurd and just random.
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Originally Posted by anifani821
You really are missing the point here!
People who get "insulted" by such things as others evangelizing, whether for Hari Krishna or Jesus, have BIG HANG UPS and are really wrapped up in their own insecurities as well as self-importance.
I have to wonder about folks who get all self-righteous and "offended" over something written on a sign (or a flag, for that matter). Just don't look at it, for heaven's sake.
Oh I'm not offended.
I'm sick of the bombardment and influence of all religions on society. And you know damn well that the religious agenda of religious people, always has had and continues to have deep social and political influences on our every day lives, policies and laws.
A friggin' "Prayer For Justice" over a speeding ticket? Are you kidding me?
So there's a lot more to it and you know that.
You can evaluate and analyze my "Hang-ups and/or Insecurities" all day long.
Oh and I'm sure I have a few. Much like you and everyone else here. I'm sure I could soend a few days analyzing you and others here, deep in the pool of Hang-ups and Insecurities.
But everyone knows and history completely and definitively supports this: religious people and their agenda is a very significant element to keep any eye out for and be concerned about. To ignore them, as historically proven, is foolish.
Last edited by SunnyKayak; 05-25-2010 at 05:07 PM..
There was a man who decided to write a book about the different churches of the United States. He flies to San Francisco and begins taking photographs in the very large Grace Cathedral. Suddenly he spot a golden telephone on a wall. Above it a sign reads $10,000 a minute.
Intrigued, the writer seeks out the priest who explains that this golden phone is, in fact, a direct line to Heaven, and if he wants to use it, he can talk directly to God. "Thank you very much," the man says and continues on his way.
His research takes him to churches in Milwaukee, Chicago and New York. Each time he notices the same type of phone with exactly the same sign. Each time he seeks out the parish priest, asks the same question, and gets the same answer: it is a direct line to God. He thanks the priest and continues on his way.
This continues through many other states until finally, he arrives in North Carolina.
Upon entering a small rural church he is about to walk right by the standard golden telephone when the sign above it grabs his attention. This time the sign reads "Calls 25 cents." By now he is fascinated. He finds the Pastor and says to him, "Sir, I have been in cities all across the country, and in each church I found this golden telephone and was told that it was a direct line to Heaven and that I could talk to God. But, in all of the other churches it was $10,000 a minute. Your sign reads 'Calls 25 cents.' Why?"
The Pastor smiles benignly and says, "Oh, my son, that's easy. You're in the South now, it's a local call."
/I think we all can lighten up a bit, and I am also speaking to myself/
The topic at hand is historic signage that has been around the area for decades.
Now THAT is funny - thanks for making me laugh
The funny thing is, IF I had started this thread when the Save our Signs group was trying to save the JFG Coffee sign NOBODY would have taken the thread off topic.
But mention the name "Jesus" and some people just come unglued. Thank God I was born in the south and grew up where the name Jesus is a GOOD thing.
As Ani has stated, it is also a good thing, and about time, that we save as many historical markers and places as we can - too much has been lost already.
Ani, you always have the funniest come backs. Right when I have you all figured out, you come out through a different angle . Back to the topic. I love that Charlotte is trying to save so much of its oldies. I am specially glad that the old firehouse was saved a few weeks ago. Now, regarding this sign, I truly thinks that it is pretty ugly, but that's just my opinion and nothing to do with its message.
I am glad they saved the firehouse, too!
As for "live and let live," I swear to you . . . it is the truth! Don't be discussing someone else's dirty laundry unless you are prepared for folks to be discussing yours! We all have things we would rather not have to explain/discuss/defend (or even own up to, for that matter). It really is the height of hyprocrisy to be judging others when we all know full well we have our own family (and personal) history to deal with, lol!!!
Yes, the JESUS LIVES sign is graceless (pun intended) and probably even ugly, but as I said before - preserving history means preserving the good, the bad and the ugly.
Last edited by SunnyKayak; 05-25-2010 at 05:09 PM..
And you seriously think that comment isn't rude and patronising?
So much for a christian attitude.
It was sarcasm to match sarcasm. Though in all honesty, really and truly, I am a very proud southerner and would not want to live or be anywhere BUT the south. I DO in fact pity others who don't have what I have
Coming from such a wonderfully RICH historical area yourself, I would think you could appreciate my love of southern history and lifestyle.
Last edited by SunnyKayak; 05-25-2010 at 05:09 PM..
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