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Old 05-08-2014, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Maui County, HI
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A 75 k Camaro is for car show bragging rights for Chevy fans just like a GT500 is for Ford fans. The real car guys are on the track driving Coyotes or Boss 302's for the guys with heavier wallets.
All I have is my ol' slow 305hp 4.6L
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Old 05-09-2014, 07:12 AM
 
Location: SouthEast
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There's alot of misinformation here.
The Z28 does not have magnetic ride control. It shares very little with the ZL1.
The 1LE does not have brake issues after a few laps, thats a new one. The brakes on the 1LE are the same Brembos as the standards SS. They are very good brakes.
The 1LE beats the current Boss 302 on the road course. It also is right there with the GT500 on some tracks.
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Old 05-09-2014, 07:25 AM
 
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I understand that but most auto races are held on clear days and I do believe Barber's was a little damp during that test. Either way I just don't like the "what if" argument even though personally I would rather have a GT-R, the z/28 beat it that day. If you had asked most enthusiasts particularly import fan boys before this test happened most would say that a Camaro didn't even belong on the track with a GT-R.

Chevy says up front that the Z/28 is for occasional street use only so I already know that it is a beast but the GT-R is no Cadillac, err Infiniti in comparison. It's is rough, loud and hard to get along with too.

Chevy did a hell of a job with a platform that people said was a porker and no real track cred.
Agreed. I actually like the Z28 and would have been super interested if they had been able to price it closer to the SS pricing. However, for $75k, I would have to look elsewhere.
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Old 05-09-2014, 08:11 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Dumb comparison. Camaro was always considered to be the people's sports car that any of us can afford when we're younger and mod. Wouldn't pay someone $75k for a modded Camaro.

Most likely another paid endorsement by GM.
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Old 05-09-2014, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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Dumb comparison. Camaro was always considered to be the people's sports car that any of us can afford when we're younger and mod. Wouldn't pay someone $75k for a modded Camaro.

Most likely another paid endorsement by GM.
Yeah, the ZL1 option in 1969 was a little over $4000 while the base car 327 sold complete for under $3000. You need to expand your narrow vision of reality, or not comment at all.
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Old 05-09-2014, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Twin Lakes /Taconic / Salisbury
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Yeah, the ZL1 option in 1969 was a little over $4000 while the base car 327 sold complete for under $3000. You need to expand your narrow vision of reality, or not comment at all.
For once I have to agree with MrWillys...

If you want a track Camaro on a budget the 1LE is low 30s and can do 90% of what a Z can do for less than 40% the cost. Which is great since no matter what they think only about 1% of the people who take either to the track could actually exploit the other 10% of the cars' capabilities.

For both driver and car the last few tenths are always the hardest/most expensive to "find". Reaching the first 90-98% of a drivers or cars ability is the easy part. Its ALWAYS been like that and always will be. The last tenths are exponentially more expensive and to a select few, well worth the time/$$$ finding and exploiting it. One of the reasons professionals like myself are always in demand.
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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What is a 1LE? I see LS, LT, and SS only on GM's website?
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Twin Lakes /Taconic / Salisbury
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What is a 1LE? I see LS, LT, and SS only on GM's website?


Boss Mustang 302 Versus Chevrolet Camaro 1LE - Comparison Tests - Road & Track

2014 Official 1LE Specs | ZL1 Camaro Registry

Ford Mustang Boss 302 vs. Chevy Camaro SS 1LE - Popular Mechanics
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